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DaMadman
01-19-2005, 09:40 AM
here it is

DaMadman
01-19-2005, 09:43 AM
no, here it is

14 in the red and quite a few more in the surrounding head

From 25 Yards

fabsroman
01-19-2005, 10:05 AM
That is pretty good for a .410. Plus, I am betting that a .410 can be tweaked with the right chokes to get it really tight. I don't doubt that it can throw a dense pattern, I just don't think the gun allows for much error as you get further out.

Jack
01-19-2005, 10:44 AM
That is a good pattern.
You've got about half the total shot in the kill zone- which is great if the gun will do that every time.
Take a close look at that pattern, particularly at about 2 o'clock and 9 o'clock. A very small aiming error (like a few inches) would result in a lot fewer hits, if that pattern is typical.

DaMadman
01-19-2005, 01:42 PM
well considering that I have used that gun and 2-1/5 inch #6 shot to shoot trap and have broken as many as 19 and normally above 15 out of 25 I am thinking it is really all in the gun. But I like to take credit every now and then.

I did have another target that patterned very similar but I goofed it up when I shot it twice, once with express #4 and dummy me shot the same target with a winchester AA #9 shot, The #9 shot patterned terrible at 20 and 25 yards most of the shot was outside the red.

I have a box of Remington #6 game loads at the house somewhere that I am going to take down and shoot just for curiosity now. I know, I know curiostity killed the cat and all but what can ya do. hahaha

Hey Fabs, Maybe I should has tried shooting those 6 little yellow birds at the tournament with the .410, hahahaha might have hit a few more than I did with the 12 gauge.

fabsroman
01-19-2005, 03:27 PM
DaMadman,

You have me laughing pretty good. I can't remember how many of those little targets you hit with the 12 ga., but I seriously doubt you would have done any better with the .410. Remember, that pattern that you have on the paper is at something standing still. When a target flies/moves through a shot pattern/string, things can be very different.

By the way, smaller pellets will always pattern worse out of the same choke as larger pellets because they get deformed a lot more in the firing process and they weigh a lot less. Hence, they tend to deflect a lot easier as soon as they encounter air resistance. So, I am not surprised that the 9's patterned terribly.

Jack,

Very good point about the aiming error really coming into play on the edges of the pattern.

DaMadman
01-20-2005, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by fabsroman
DaMadman,

You have me laughing pretty good. I can't remember how many of those little targets you hit with the 12 ga., but I seriously doubt you would have done any better with the .410. Remember, that pattern that you have on the paper is at something standing still. When a target flies/moves through a shot pattern/string, things can be very different.

By the way, smaller pellets will always pattern worse out of the same choke as larger pellets because they get deformed a lot more in the firing process and they weigh a lot less. Hence, they tend to deflect a lot easier as soon as they encounter air resistance. So, I am not surprised that the 9's patterned terribly.

Jack,

Very good point about the aiming error really coming into play on the edges of the pattern.

I hope you are laughing cause I know there is no way I would have hit to little greenies with the .410, Had hard enough time hitting them with the 12.

You on the other hand with that extra full choke in that Berretta did the job just right.

Let me know when you are free to go shooting. I can go just about any Sunday so maybe when it warms up a bit we can get keech away from the bay and Nalley and we can all go bust some clays together

fabsroman
01-20-2005, 05:14 PM
It will definitely have to wait until it gets warmer and it stops snowing. I just don't have much fun shooting at clays when I am freezing and my feet are stuck in snow.