View Full Version : savage-good or not?
ghost stalker
02-10-2005, 12:12 AM
lookin for a 338win mag 1st choice or a 300win mag 2nd choice. must have detachable mag adjustable trigger no less than 24" barrel as accurate as can be bought for under a 1000$ and an elevated cheek peice. muzzel break is nice. the sav 116fsak looks like it is a good gun at a glance. what do you think? the only thing that it doesn't have is a cheek peice! anyone have one? they say it shoots quite well! any input is greatly appreciated
gd357
02-10-2005, 12:54 AM
Savage Arms probably produces the most accurate out-of-the-box rifles today (although unless you're a benchrest fanatic you'd never see the difference). I've shot a few of the newer rifles, and I've got a few friends who have some. I haven't heard one bad word about them yet. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one.
gd357
ghost stalker
02-10-2005, 01:33 AM
or do you have any other suggestions? like somthing with the same things i'm looking for in the same price range?
fabsroman
02-10-2005, 05:15 AM
I've shot a Ruger 77MKII Win Mag for about 12 years now and I have not a single complaint about it. Well, now that I come to think of it, the factory trigger was pretty bad, but I replaced that with a Timney trigger and that is the best trigger I have ever used. The factory synthetic stock was pretty bad too, so I replaced that with a Hogue overmolded. Now, I barely shoot anything else.
ghost stalker
02-10-2005, 11:05 AM
yeh i have the stainless m77 with the ugly uncomfortable stock and the crappy 40lbs unadjustable trigger too. it's in 280rem and drops deer like it's going out of style, but i need a mag for moose and elk and as i do enjoy my ruger i don't think i would buy another. savage seems to have all that i am lookng for except the cheek peice. i guess you cant have your cake and eat it!
VinVega
02-10-2005, 11:09 AM
I don't think you can do even near as good as a Savage if you're looking in the same price range. Everyone I know who owns a Savage ends up owning more of them. I would say go ahead with it, because from what I know about marketing, when people start liking something, and the world finds out there's great quality in it at an affordable price, one or the other goes away, usually the affordable price.
Cossack
02-10-2005, 12:49 PM
I agree with most accurate out-of-the-box gun on market. Their new AcuTrigger is the safest trigger on the market, great function and fully adjustable to 2lbs. You may find a better looking gun without looking too hard but it's unlikely to be cheaper or more accurate.
fabsroman
02-11-2005, 12:07 AM
VinVega,
It is called the demand/supply curve. As the demand increases for a product and/or the supply goes down, the cost usually goes up. The thing with the firearms industry is that only a certain number of rifles are sold every year, so I seriously doubt that any manufacturer is having a problem meeting the demand. The only problem they have is in forecasting what the demand will be.
Okay, I am completely off track, but I loved economics class in undergrad, just didn't love it enough to pursue it as a career.
Now, with that all said, when the Beretta 391 Teknys sporting clays shotgun came out, I had the hardest time finding one. I received a quote from somebody for $1,250, but they could never get the gun in. Ended up seeing it on a shelf for $1,350 and I just bought it. It has been the best shotgun I have ever shot (i.e., it fits me great).
BILLY D.
02-11-2005, 02:15 AM
I HAVE 3 SAVAGES IN VARIOUS CALIBERS. THEY ARE KEEPERS.
Dutchboy
02-11-2005, 09:55 AM
The Savage rifle is the BEST production factory rifle, at any price, when it comes to barrel quality, trigger quality, chamber head-space dimensions, and gas handling design.
They hit the price point by using birch instead of walnut for their stocks, through savvy design, and by using the barrel nut system to quickly AND accurately headspace the rifle.
For a rifle that will be used, the Savage is hard to beat. JMO, Dutch.
gregarat
02-11-2005, 11:29 AM
I liked the acutrigger, as much as I like my Rugers rifles with Timneny triggers installed.
The accutrigger is far less expensive.
fabsroman
02-11-2005, 12:57 PM
Did I already post that I didn't like the feel of the action on the Savage. It might be because I only use Rugers that the Savage action feels uncomfortable to me. I picked up the Savage, tried the action on it, and then had the clerk hand me the Ruger 77MKIIVT in .22-250 and the action felt so much nicer on the Ruger. I guess it depends on what we are all accustomed to.
Evan03
02-11-2005, 07:42 PM
fabs
i guess were the minority, most i talk say the action on rugers feel horrible. i always dissagree..
all three of my rugers have in my opion a very goos smooth feeling action, this could be in part due to two of them being older than me and my 2506 getn alot of use.
all actions are silky smooth
300 RUM
02-11-2005, 09:39 PM
If you like the Savage but hate the stock as most people do. Try looking on the web for Boyds Gunstocks they make most of the laminated wood stocks you see on the Ruger,Reminton, Howa rifles as well as many others. They usually have several styles and colors and I think they also make custom stocks also.
kentlock
02-12-2005, 12:17 AM
Savage is great.
10" groups on calm days at 1000 yards with a 300WM
smacarac
02-12-2005, 02:18 PM
can,t go wrong with savage .
gregarat
02-12-2005, 03:42 PM
I do like the Ruger action better, and quality.
Now...If only I didnt need to buy a Timney trigger, along with it.
Nulle
02-14-2005, 09:54 AM
I got a Savage in the 7mm and like the heck out of it and have had no complaints on action .
Cal Sibley
02-14-2005, 01:00 PM
I guess I was lucky in terms of Savage being called the ugly rifle. I have an older model 110 in .243Win. I met a young chap, a Brit who had recently finished gunsmith school and was welcoming all firearms work while he became established. He refinished my Savage stock by recutting all the checkering, installed a rosewood forend tip and grip cap, and finished the stock with some type of European finish. Gawd but it's a sexy looking rascal, and all for $50. It's the best deal I've ever had. If there's a Michael, from England, frequenting this board who worked in Toronto in the late 70s please contact me. I need you! Best wishes.
Cal - Montreal
fabsroman
02-14-2005, 03:16 PM
My dad's old Savage 110 has a really smooth action that I like. The problem with that gun is its trigger. It even shoots pretty well with 150 gr. Ballistic Tips. The action I tried on the new Savage didn't feel anything like my dad's 35 year old gun. I was hoping that the gun would be just like my dad's old one and that the accu-trigger would solve my trigger problem on my dad's gun.
I am still going to stick to Ruger. I was looking at Ruger's website the other night and saw that the VT model comes in both a .25-06 and a .308. Now, I have my dad's gun that is a .30-06 and I have my Ruger .300 Win Mag, so the .308 isn't really a necessity, but I am thinking about it. I also saw a .243 in the VT model. Wouldn't hurt to have that one too. Too many guns out there, not enough time and money on my part.
Quigmy
02-14-2005, 09:45 PM
I still like my 99 358 WCF. Tang safety, rotary magazine. :D
Steverino
02-15-2005, 01:34 PM
My brother has a Savage 110 bolt in 30.06 and for an out of the box-do nothing factory production rifle, it's a tack driver. I don't think that you can beat em' for the price.
Skinny Shooter
02-15-2005, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by ghost stalker
the only thing that it doesn't have is a cheek peice! anyone have one? they say it shoots quite well!
Don't know how high you need to get. I have 3 of these on my remmys.
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Cal Sibley
02-17-2005, 08:37 PM
I find my Remingtons, BDL or varmint, will shoot with my Savages in terms of accuracy, but I have to add that my last 3 new Remingtons have required glass bedding, barrel floating and trigger work to shoot up to my expectations. That's another $200. plus the Remingtons cost more out of the box to start with. I think that gives Savage a pretty clear cut edge. Just one mans opinion. Best wishes.
Cal - Montreal
wrenchman
02-17-2005, 09:21 PM
I have a few rems and i bought a 110 savage in 243 for my sons
as they grow i got it frome the brother in law.
i can honestly say they all go bang and have killed deer- lol
Buy the savage you wont be sorry and go hunting.
Love the idea of the accutrigger and wish they would sell it to everyone else. If I ever bought a savage it would be for that trigger alone. For some reason the savages just feel lightweight, clunky and basically cheap to me. Got frieds that swear by them but to me whenever I get the urge to get one I just have to pick them up in a store, cycle the action and then i automatically tell them to pass me something else. Maybe it requires a little getting used to or seeing it shoot accurately to alter the way I perceive savages. Good luck to all owners of them, its obvious there is something to them from your reviews.
ghost stalker
02-22-2005, 08:24 PM
thanks fellas. i think my mind is made up. now just need the time and cash to shop for one.
SeaBreeze
03-13-2005, 11:53 AM
I just bought my first Savage about a month ago now, its a .17HMR, best shooting rifle i have picked up since i bought my First rifle a Ruger M77 MKII in 300 win mag. I have used my ruger to kill all the deer in which i have killed still hunting, never fail dead in tracks. But for the topic at hand For the money the ruger 300 win mag with a 150 gr hornady boat tail does the trick.:)
JackRabbit
03-13-2005, 02:11 PM
savage is agood gun for the money.But as far as the best out of the box rifle.I'd have to say tikka is the most accurate out of the box gun and for almost the same price as the savage.And oh yeh it's american owned compant to. The smoothest action on any rifle made "ever."
Cal Sibley
03-14-2005, 01:31 PM
I commend Savage for being the only major firearms manufacturer to give us what we need, an accurate rifle at an affordable price. After seeing a couple of the changes made to the line this year, the few detractors out there may not even be able to refer to it as the ugly rifle much longer. Best wishes.
Cal - Montreal
JackRabbit
03-14-2005, 06:04 PM
Hi Cal, A lot of what i've read lately on the savage and it's AcuTrigger sounds good.But when I was checking out rifles I just bought the rifle I liked the best and cost wise it probibly was only about $50 more. Ken.;)
JackRabbit
03-14-2005, 06:33 PM
Hi Cal, I just posted a reply but I must have messed it up.I 've read some good things about savage lately.But when I was looking for a rifle I bought the one I liked the best and cost wise it only cost about $50 more. Ken.;)
ghost stalker
03-20-2005, 09:33 PM
i did it! i bougt a new .300 win mag. but it turned out to be a tikka (t3). under $700CAN. not a bad deal i thougt the action was soo smooth, the gun was nice and light, and didn't feel as cheap as i thought it would. felt good,so i bougt it.
wrenchman
03-20-2005, 09:56 PM
i have never got to use one but i have herd good things about the tikka
JackRabbit
03-21-2005, 07:24 PM
Good for you,ghoststalker I'm sure you'll like it.I bought the all weather in a 22-250 , after looking at everthig out there.Its my favorite long range gun,great on jacks and ground hogs.:)
ghost stalker
03-21-2005, 09:47 PM
picked it up today and pumped a few rounds threw it at the range and was suprised by how smooth the trigger felt and how little recoil it had compared to some of the other 300s i've shot.
al-in-all a good buy i think!
Brithunter
03-22-2005, 03:56 AM
Hi All,
Hmm hate to tell you this.................. but Tikka is owned by Berretta now which is still Italian, they may have subsideries in the US but Berretta is still owned by the family as far as I am aware. It's also the oldest Gunmaker in the world.
JackRabbit
03-22-2005, 07:42 PM
tikka is still made at the sako factory using sako technology.Have a look at one some day.;)
ghost stalker
03-23-2005, 12:57 AM
hmm. the box says made in finland i think! but it doesn't matter too much cuz i likes it uhugh.
ghost stalker
03-28-2005, 12:02 AM
it's been years since i have seen a real earth pig. the ones round here are lil dink's compared to the 10-15pounders of the eastern provinces. it sure is somthing else to see one of them take flight when hit with a high powered rifle...lol
JackRabbit
03-31-2005, 10:53 AM
if your ever going to be in my part of country in late april into may Email me I'll get you out gladly.I have the 270 and the 22-250 and will soon try my 17HMR. ;)
ghost stalker
04-03-2005, 11:49 PM
well, with all the input you fellas have given. i figure you should get a look at my new shoulder cannon.
tikka (t3 lite)
300 win mag
burris fullfeildII ballistic plex
3-9x40mm
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