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Hawkeye6
02-12-2005, 05:32 PM
This thing on the Southern Border is nothing new. Here's an editorial from 1997.

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=14272

The shooting war on Mexican border

By Joseph Farah

© 1997 WorldNetDaily.com
'More firefights than in Bosnia'
At least 10 times in the last 10 weeks, U.S. law enforcement officers and soldiers have been fired upon by assailants in Mexico. But that statistic doesn't even begin to tell the story of how high tensions are running along the border. If the situation doesn't cool off, the Mexican border in 1997 could redefine the way Americans think of "a long, hot summer."
"There have been more firefights on the border in recent weeks than there have been in Bosnia," said an exasperated Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-El Cajon, before passage of a little-noticed bill last week authorizing President Clinton to send up to 10,000 troops to the Mexican border to help stop illegal immigration and drug trafficking.
The latest surge of violence began April 18, when two U.S. Customs inspectors were wounded in a gun battle at the Calexico border station. The attacker, a Mexican national, was killed by the agents. Later that day, a tunnel linking Calexico with Mexicali was closed by a bomb threat. Fifty miles to the north, an illegal alien smuggler allegedly tried to run down a Border Patrol agent. He and 25 illegal aliens in the van were arrested after a televised chase along California freeways that ended in suburban West Covina.
On May 11, Border Patrol agents and sheriff's deputies in San Diego were fired upon after a deputy tried to stop a vehicle for speeding.
On May 17, a Border Patrol agent was wounded by sniper fire from an AK-47 as he sat in his Ford Bronco near the San Ysidro border-crossing station. The shots came, according to the Border Patrol, from inside Mexico. The agent was hit in the face, and, although his injuries are not life-threatening, he is still recovering.
On May 20, a unit of Marines was fired upon by a Mexican-American on the U.S. side of the border in Texas as the soldiers provided surveillance assistance to the Borer Patrol. The Marines returned fire, killing the assailant.
On May 23, two Border Patrol agents working near Border Field State Park came under sniper fire. The agents fired 50 to 60 rounds back into Mexico. Another attack was reported the next day. At least two other gun battles between Border Patrol agents in Naco, Arizona, and people on the Mexican side of the border took place in May.
On June 1, Border Patrol agents were fired at west of the San Ysidro crossing. None of the agents were injured. Then, again, bullets were fired from Mexico at two Border Patrol agents in separate incidents June 17 and 18 near San Ysidro. Another border patrolman was killed June 14 when he fell down a ravine while pursuing suspects.
"People are getting killed along the border," said Rep Brian Bilbray during the troop deployment debate. Most Americans, though, haven't noticed.
"These shootings coming from south of the border aimed north are something that we haven't experienced until just about a month or so ago," explains Border Patrol spokesman Jim Pilkington. Also unprecedented is the type of weapon being used -- AK-47 rifles equipped with special telescopes and laser range-finders normally restricted to the Mexican army.
"There is a war going on for control of our border with Mexico," says Hunter, matter-of-factly.
Yes, and in this war, the U.S. Border Patrol is outgunned and outmanned. Agents are prohibited from using automatic weapons. But the attackers have them.
"We have said for years that you won't know you're being invaded until you try to stop it," said Glenn Spencer of Voice of Citizens Together, a grass-roots organization which has been fighting illegal immigration for the last six years. "We are going to see escalating violence at the border which will only end with a wide-ranging confrontation which, I suspect, will spread into the United States."
The troop commitment by Congress, however, is seen as a largely symbolic move, because Clinton does not approve of the idea of deploying soldiers along the border. Before the troops could be dispatched, Attorney General Janet Reno would have to request them from the secretary of defense. But that's not likely, of course. Unless she finds out that those assault weapons are being fired by Mexican "cult members."

PJgunner
02-13-2005, 02:06 PM
What's new? It's still going on, only getting worse. I strogly suspect it's more the drug smugglers doing the shooting. They have the money to get equipment from corrupt Mexican Army officials.
There was an article in today's paper where the drug lords now have possession of at least two anti-aircraft missles (Stingers?) that were "stolen" from the Mexican military. The thought is they want to try ans shoot down the mexican president's plane. He is apparently trying to take the drug lords down.
There is a small lake not too far from the Mexican Border called Pena Blanca. It's a pretty little lake that has a few black bass, crappie and bluegills. It used to be a fairly popular place to go and fish, picnic and hike. Deer, quail and other wild game was plentiful and easily observed. Twnty years ago, when the family and d I went fishing there, I took a .22 pistol for snakes, just in case. never saw one, but i felt better. Today, I take a high cap 9MM at the minium and would feel better with my AR-15. Why? When you leave I-19 to go to the lake, the road runs about two miles north of the border. More than once I have seen groups of illegals crossing the road on their way into this country.
There is some decent deer hunting in the area, but people have stopped getting tags there because of the chance of confrontation with illegals and drug smugglers who most likely will shoot you. There was a bowhunter a few months back who went out for a week end hunt, and when he didn't return, they went to where he liked to camp. He was found murdered. yet, the powers that be don't seem to want to do anything about it. I wonder why?
I know and shoot with several Border Patrol agents and they told me they caught over 600,000 illegals in about nine months, and that they were only a drop in the bucket. Makes one think; what's going on? Who dropped the ball?
Maybe what we need is a serious letter writing to out representative telling them to get their lazy butts off the stick and do something about it. Won't work here in AZ though. Both Congressrats are Hispanic and want the borders to be more open to Mexicans looking for work. :mad: They also want amnesty for the ones already here. :mad: :mad: :mad:
Paul B. :mad: as hell!

quigleysharps4570
02-13-2005, 02:46 PM
Yep...will just get worse. My idea of slowing it down wouldn't sit well with some, so I'll leave it be.

Swift
02-13-2005, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by quigleysharps4570
Yep...will just get worse. My idea of slowing it down wouldn't sit well with some, so I'll leave it be.
I'm with you!

Virginiashadow
02-13-2005, 08:34 PM
They cost a serious amount of money. I really wish the same amount of Mexicans would cross into any European country.....I wonder who they would feel after they call us heartless and militaristic in our approaches to illegals. Not one European country could aborb the costs that we do annually from them.

vashadow

BILLY D.
02-13-2005, 09:17 PM
HEY QUIGLEY, WE ALL KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT ONE. COUNTERSNIPERS.

BUT THAT WOULD UPSET THE DIVERSITY AND MULTI CULTURLISM CROWD ON THEIR BACKSIDES.

A NICE UH-1 WITH M-60'S WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM ALSO.