Remington Model 7

[Ken14]

I just found a good deal on a Remington Model 7 stainless synthetic in .308...any pros-cons or opinions on the model 7?. It's very light and compact and seems that it would be a neat little woods rifle. All input is appreciated.

[earschplitinloudenboomer]

Can't trust the trigger/safety. If you want to replace it with an aftermarket, you'll have a great rifle.

[Ken14]

Please elaborate on the problems you have had...I have not had any with the 700 series guns.

[wrenchman]

I like the gun i dont know any one that has had a problim with it.
The model 7 is a lot of gun in 308 my brother in law had one he killed a nice elk with its nice and lite if you do a lot of walking

[Evan03]

thre something of rumor going around about remingtons fire chamberd shells unentainly.

like you see moose chamber a round a flip the sfety on then a few minutes later the rifle goes off on its own or because it was bumped just right.


so far ive had 3 remingtons, 2 new ones within the last year and all 3 have yet to fail on me,

it all boils down to to a handfulkl of guys that had a problem with the rifles, they posted it on ht net and things went from there. 96.9% of people who own remingtons have never had a problem with them in theyre life.

Evan

[Ken14]

OK

[earschplitinloudenboomer]

Rem. 7, 700, 722 trigger design unsafe, will sometime fire when the safety is moved to the off position. Trigger is non-repairable. Several companies offer a safe trigger for these rifles. Please don't take my word on this, search the boards...or ask some of the families who have lost family members. If you buy, use, shoot or touch any of these rifles, be very careful. You will hear..."shot my Rem. for years, never had a problem". Not every rifle exhibits the unsafe condition everytime, but every rifle with this trigger design is subject to failure.

[Cossack]

Had one in 7/08. Mine was synthertic, stainless with 20"barrel. Accurate, light, yet handles well. Synthetic stock not ideal; I filled it with minimal expansion liquid insulation foam to stiffen it up and reduce noise. Trigger is very good and fully adjustable if you know what to do. Trigger unsafe rumor is just that. I have/had 5 Remingtons in 700 and Model 7, no problems. The older models (1970's) lock the bolt when on safe, had to be off safe to unload. Several folks - who couldn't keep their mitts out of the trigger then or dropped the gun - apparently had a problem; which they blamed on the gun and sued. That's been fixed long ago. Even the old models can be easily retroed at no cost. No Model 7s affected.
I'd still have the Model 7 if that Kimber Montana hussy hadn't seduced me. Paid substantially more for her to get essentially the same thing only with a 22" barrel and 12 oz lighter, largely due to Kevlar stock and blind mag.

[earschplitinloudenboomer]

Remington issued a recall...for defective trigger.

[PJgunner]

Search the Remington web site for the recall.
Paul B.

[earschplitinloudenboomer]

There is a Model 7 sitting in my gun cabinet that my mother bought new. No one has had their mits in it. To my knowledge it has never been out of the stock. Gun fails to stay cocked most of the time, once you manage to get it cocked, if you release the safety, the striker will sometimes fall with no jarring and nothing touching the trigger. Remington says that while some Mod. 7's are affected, they say this one is not in the serial # range to have the problem. I gave my Mom an Interarms Mini-Mauser which I had built in .221 Fireball to replace her Mod. 7 in .223. I do not really want to lay out the extra cash to fix a problem that Rem. wont. But folks I absolutely refuse to trade or sell the gun.
That "rumor" it has could kill someone.

By the way, I made my living for several years as a gunsmith. I have had my mitts in many, many triggers, Remingtons, Winchesters, Rugers, Manlicher/Shoenaurs, Colt Saurs etc.

My comments here are not meant to insult anyones choice of rifles, but the information is there. The documented cases are there. The pay offs by Rem. are there. Please read and research this subject, not for my sake, for yours.

[earschplitinloudenboomer]

FOR RELEASE: August 11, 2002 3pm
CONTACT: Brad Lamb (919-968-9449)


MADISON, NC. There could be 20,000 Model 700 bolt action Remington rifles that can be triggered accidentally. Yet there is no recall possible because guns and tobacco are the only consumer products not subject to federal health and safety regulation. No federal agency can require a recall of defective firearms.

[wrenchman]

Ruger had a recal just like it for there 77 and my father inlaw had
a problim with his model 70 you could bump the gun and it would drop so my point is dont trust a safty these are mechanical problims it can happen with every thing and any gun.
If you have the gun fix it and use it they are nice guns.

[TreeDoc]

Get over it.

It's old news and you have been watching "60 Minutes" way to much .

If you have a concern about a potentially dangerous trigger, replace it, they can be had for very little money.

Move on.

After that....and you should have done this already, ask yourself; Why is it that the muzzle of a high power rifle was pointed at a human being when the safety mechanism was released? Why was it ever pointed near a human being at all? It's strange how the story was sensationalized yet those 2 questions just never seem to come up. People just refuse to accept responsibility for their negligent behavior.

All disrespect intended, those fools that pulled that move shouldn't be suing Remington but should be behind bars for involuntary manslaughter for their gross negligence.

My suggestion to the original question is;
Go buy it! There bitchin' rifles, especially in .308 and 30-06. My local shop has an '06 model in stainless with the laminated stock. If I didn't have an absolutely awesome '06 already the Mod 7 would be mine. Dangerous trigger and all.

There could be 20,000 Model 700 bolt action Remington rifles that can be triggered accidentally. Yet there is no recall possible because guns and tobacco are the only consumer products not subject to federal health and safety regulation. No federal agency can require a recall of defective firearms.

Let me tell you, you want it this way otherwise you can kiss ALL YOUR GUNS GOODBYE in this country. They will go away just like General Aviation Aircraft did in the late eighties. Cessna, Piper, North American, etc ALL quit manufacturing GA Aircraft because of the lawsuits from the wives and families of stupid doctors flying complex A36's and stupid husbands for flying beyond their personal minimums and capabilities. It took years and years of huge reforms to create an environment where a company could even consider manufacturing an aircraft for public "consumption." When the liberal trial lawyers get a hold of the gun companies do you think they will EVER be back? If you answered "YES" to that question than you live on another planet. In this day and age it is not in the best interest of any firearms manufacturer to release a defective product.

[Ken14]

Well...debate over ...gun bought...a new Rifle Basix aftermarket trigger installed so that issue is out. I always thought the 7 was a short action rifle...never seen one in a .30-06...might be interesting.

[TreeDoc]

E X C E L L E N T !

;)

[earschplitinloudenboomer]

The Model 7 is a short action.

The one in my cabinet (unused for many years) has a defective trigger/safety mechanism. Remington refuses to repair or acknowledge the problem.

I applaud the safety consciousness of everyone who agrees that gun safety is the responsibility of the owner/shooter.

I doubt anyones claim that the muzzle of their rifle has never been pointed in an unsafe direction (loaded or unloaded).

I respectfully submit that some problems do exist with the design of the 721/722, 700 and Model 7 trigger/safety mechanism. I do this because the same design is used on the 600. I experienced this problem on one of those also. I do not wish to sound argumentive, but their are a lot of young or inexperienced owners/shooters out their, I would like to see them safe long enough to form and express their opinions.

[kailua custom]

Tree Doc said it ALL!!

OLE!!!!

Mark

[TreeDoc]

My mistake on the Model 7. The rifle I was talking about in 30-06 is a Mountain Rifle which has the pencil thin barrel and small laminated stock which is so much like a Model 7.

The rest still applies.

[8X56MS]

Kailua custom,
Is that a Leupold scope? Its nice to see that I am not the only guy that still likes the compact 20mm tubes. I still buy any old Weaver V4.5 or Redfield 5 Star 20mm scope I run across.

[8X56MS]

I looked on Remington's web site for the recall info. while I can see a recall for a similar problem with the Model 710, I don't see the Model 7 mentioned.
There is also something about changing the safety on other rifles, where you can't uload the rifle with the safety in the "S" position.
Where does it mention the Model 7 trigger problem?

If somone has lost a family member, it sure wasn't because of a bad safety..................