mounting a 30mm scope

[scooterman27006]

fellas i am no pro at putting a scope on a gun but i have done it many times without trouble - i usually use leupold mounts and rings or very similiar- well this time i want some pro help - i have a 30 mm scope and i want to put it on a 40x action - well a pair of z type burris rings came with the scope and they are the type that would go on a weaver type base -- weeeellllll i just dont really like the looks of the weaver base type mounts - i think it looks cheap and will not hold up to a knock bump or two not that i will be throwing it around but those little bitty screws just dont impress me so - how do the pros do it - i know i have to use the burris type rings with the inserts in order to keep the warranty on the scope so i guess that is a given but whats my choices as far as a base and a set of these rings without the cheap weaver stuff - now if this is supposed to be a great way to mount then ok but i sure dont like it and also - if this scope has a 56 bell on the end and the barrel on this 22-250 is factory but big to me then what rings should i choose in order to keep it off of the barrel - the barrel size on it is factory and if i need to measure and post back i will and as far as the base a one piece seems better but i sure am open to suggestions thanks for any help

[fabsroman]

I used a pair of the Z-rings on a one piece Leupold base for my slug gun and I love those rubber inserts. If the point of impact is off, you can buy the adjustment rubber inserts that allow you to adjust point of impact without using the knobs on the scope.

If you provide me with the make and model of the gun, I can probably help you out with picking the correct rings and base.

You can also go to www.burrisoptics.com and look at the fit chart. I think this is the website for the fit chart:

http://www.burrisoptics.com/mountfit.html

You just need to find a dovetail base that fits your gun and 30mm dovetail z rings.

Disclaimer - I am not a professional (i.e., I don't get paid to install scopes), but I have spent several hours looking at rings and bases to avoid having to buy Weaver type mounts.

[scooterman27006]

fabs i appreciate the info and well i wanted to get away from the z type rings - well i say that not even knowing really what the z part is - they would mount on a weaver base the ones that i do have - well i wanted to use something more solid like leupold or even ruger - man i love the ruger type mount but this is going on a remington 40X 22-250 and right now it has leupold bases and dual dovetail rings and they work great and i would like to go with something like that except use the 30mm rings with the inserts - i havent looked at the chart you sent me yet but if they offer rings that will work like leupold's does but still use the rings with the inserts then that is sort of what i would like unless someone else suggest something else - i just hate the thought of the weaver slide rail type thing and the rings with the screw on the side - man those sure are some small screws and there is only one per mount lol but i have never really looked at bases and rings much especially for a 30mm - not that this gun is going benchrest shooting but i sure would like to make it as solid as possible short of welding them on lol

[fabsroman]

Scooter,

I mispoke. It isn't the Zee rings that have the rubber insert, but the Burris Signature series of rings, which the Zee (i.e., Weaver style) rings come in. You can get a pair of Burris Signature Dovetail rings that will pop right into your Leupold base that you have on the gun right now. However, the 30mm Signature Dovetail rings only come in matte.

Here is the link:

http://www.burrisoptics.com/rings.html

If most of my high power rifles weren't Ruger Mk II's, I would switch everything else to the Burris Signature series rings. I am thinking about getting an AR-10 and you can bet that it will have Burris Signature rings on it if they are compatable with the scope base.

[scooterman27006]

yes fabs that is what i want to do use the burris signature rings with my leupold bases - now the chart doesnt help much with finding the right height rings for a 56 bell on the scope so would you suggest just ordering the heighest i can get and you are sure that burris rings will work in the leupold bases ok - i have never mixed and matched stuff like that and am not afraid to order the burris bases but if they will work ok then i am all for it thanks for the help

[fabsroman]

Scooter,

I don't have my slug gun here at the house because it is currently at my parents. I'll be down there tomorrow, so I'll double check to make sure that I have a Leupold base on that gun. I know for certain that I have Burris Signature rings on it because I had to use the offsets on that gun to make it shoot close to normal.

As far as the height of the rings is concerned, you are on your own on that one. If the rings aren't high enough, just return them and start from scratch again. However, I think the highest ones will probably work.

[popplecop]

Scooter, I must have mounted well over 500 scopes in the last 15 years, probably more than that. That said the majority have been Burris Z rings and weaver bases, never have had any problems to my knowledge. Some of these have been on rifles for Africa hunting. That said I like Leupold on my rifles, because of the extra windage adjustments, or I use Millet rings if more windage is need with weaver bases. Mounting a scope is making sure base screws are locktited and that the proper hieght rings are used and aligned. I use metal rods of the prober diameter to align rings. Oh yes, this is all based on the base screw holes being properly drilled and tapped. Ruger probably has the best system for bases there is.

[Lycanthrope]

I mounted a 60mm bell on a standard contour barreled model 70 and had to use the extra high zee rings. The "high" one's weren't even close to clearing.

This was on a 7STW that would absolutley eat scope mounts. The combination of the heavy scope and sharp, quick recoil actually broke two sets of Leopold STD rings (the rear rings are held on by side screw pressure only). I started out with the Signature Zee rings but they let the scope slip under recoil. I eventually lapped in some regular 30mm Zee rings and used Skotch Kote to add some grip. I don't foresee you having this much trouble with your caliber. The zee rings are rock solid, but I did make sure I used the all steel weaver style bases. Warne, Weaver (Grand Slams) and Nightforce all make decent all steel offerrings if you don't go the dual dovetail route.

Be sure to check your maximum elevation adjustment when you first mount the scope. When you get into big bells and high scopes you may not be able to use your target knobs out to longer ranges to adjust for bullet drop. In that case, you need to use bases with a slight down angle (usually 20moa) and those aren't easy to find in dovetail configuration.