New Orleans Event Predicted

[Rocky Raab]

This is absolutely spooky. It was published in the October 2004 issue of National Geographic .

Just eerie. Read it HERE (http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0410/feature5/)

[8X56MS]

in 2002, this was published in the New Orleans paper
http://www.nola.com/hurricane/?/washingaway/

They did not listen, even to themselves.

[gumpokc]

actually this article on exactly this event was written in 2001.
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/jkbrooks/pictures/New%20Orleans.pdf
artcile was having problems loading today, possibly site being hit hard.

funding was asked for by the Army corp of engineers, and denied.

NO city government, and State legislature need to be interrogated as to why it was put off so long, when it was known it was only a matter of time before it happened.

$20-$25 million, is a hell of alot less than what will be spent on cleanup and reconstruction, and thats not including the pain and suffering that would have been prevented.

not "could" have been, but most definately _WOULD_ have been prevented.

[Andy L]

Hell, there was a movie about it on TV called, "Oil Storm", less than two months ago. Thats spooky.

Andy

[Deerman]

I bet they'll listen now.I just heard that the Bush-Cliton fund is going to give lots of money to the local goverments.Louisiana is none for it's corruption,that worries me.Where do you think there money will really go?

[fabsroman]

I have been reading articles over the weekend stating that these people knew about this situation for the past 15 years.

I am also pissed at the Mayor of New Orleans. He was quoted as saying "Heads should roll for this." I think the first head to roll should be his. A news reporter asked him some tough questions such as:

1) Why weren't the people bused out of the Superdome and Convention Center before the storm hit?

2) Why wasn't there food and water at the Superdome and Convention Center if they were planned evacuation sites?

3) Why didn't New Orleans have a better disaster plan if they knew this was a potential problem?

Every time he was asked a question that pertained to him, he tried to change it to a federal government issue.

As far as I am concerned, both the Mayor of New Orleans, the Governor of Louisianna, and the President of the United States failed these people, with most of the blame falling in that order.

[DogYeller]

the President of the United States failed these people

Explain please.

[Andy L]

Yeah Fabs, explain that one please.

The buck pretty much stops at the local level. The mayor is the one that is ultimately responsible. The governor is the one that should have made sure the mayor did it. The feds dont have a stake until asked.

But, the blame game shouldnt even be playing, not yet. Attention should be focused on getting everyone back into housing and those that still have their houses further north, back in power and gas and water and all other basic needs. Thats where the energy and attention needs to be focused.

Armchair and keyboard blaming can take place at a later date. There will be plenty of time for that and plenty of heads to chop.

Lets focus on gettin these people some sort of life back first. We cant change anything that happened, no matter whos to blame.

Andy

[8X56MS]

The thing that irritates me the most is the "Disney World" mind set of Americans. Things should be perfect, and if not, then we get free passes.

This is not a perfect world. Governments, like people, take the path of least resistance. A storm like this has a probability of hitting a place like New Orleans of about .05 percent, or about one in 200. No one would foot the bill for such a small chance of it happening. Thats reality. Katrina did hit Category 4 strength, thats reality too.

The individuals in New Orleans should have had enough personal responsibility to have at least three or four days water and food onhand. After all, they did know Katrina was coming. The local government, with the Super Dome marked as a shelter, should have had it stocked and managed.

I do not blame the US Government. There is not enough tax money in the world to have every city prepared for every worse case scenerio. Again, reality.

As Ben Stein said yesterday, the President's job responsibilities do not include a, making sure every American is mobile, has a car, has common sense.

Its getting tiresome to hear Kennedy, Action Jackson, Al Sharpton, et al, making this into another race issue. Bad things happen to good people. Bad things happen to bad people too, for that matter.

Hurricanes happen too, as do earthquakes, impacts from Meteors, and volcanos. We have to just deal with it.

[gumpokc]

8X56MS,

i agree to some extant.

what i disagree with is: you _always_ _ALWAYS_ plan, and prepare for the _worst_, not the best, not middle of the road, the worst, period.

Statistics says "it's a one in a century" or "one in a thousand or million" but guess what, you me, and everyone else has seen waaaay to many "one in a million" happenings.


It isn't "disney world" to prepare for it, especially when you know, and have been told beforehand about a weakness you have. They played the odds against it happening, and guess what, they lost.

the $25 million, is not even a drop in the bucket compared to what they will have to pay, hell what all of us will have to pay, to fix their screwup.

On your other points i agree totally.
Sharpton, Moore and the rest are just hopping on whatever media bandwagon they can and playing it for all it's worth.

[fabsroman]

My mom told me that she saw a video of Jesse Jackson down there and he was trying to speak to a black lady. The lady kept telling him to get away because the only reason he was down there was to get his face in the news. Now that lady is a person that I admire because she does not allow the wool to be pulled over her eyes.

I also agree that the governments cannot take EVERY precaution against EVERY potential disaster, but when a city knows for over 15 years that there is a pretty good possibility of the city being wiped out, even a 5% chance, by a hurricane, I think I would have taken care of that problem, just like there is a good chance that California will suffer an earthquake. In California I would have the building code set so that buildings are built earthquake proof. Sure, the buildings and homes will cost more, but they will most likely save lives and money in the future. In places where you know it is only a matter of time for a disaster to happen, you take precautions. Most of us have homeowner's insurance and car insurance because of the possibility that something might happen. Reinforcing the levies would have been insurance just in case something might happen.

[gd357]

I guess the hardest part of this ordeal for me to understand is why anyone with a reasonable level of intelligence would consider residing in a city so close to several major bodies of water that was BELOW sea level. I suppose the same reason why people chose to build houses in flood planes, near major fault lines, near active/dormant volcanoes, etc. The view or the weather might be nice, but I'm pretty happy to be a long way away from places like that.

gd

[Andy L]

You know I always thought we were pretty safe, here in the heartland, other than the occasional tornado cruisin through.

But, in SE MO, I guess is the location of the biggest earthquake in recent history. In the 1800s, the New Madrid fault changed the course of the MS river, Ive seen the old bed, pretty cool lookin, and rang the Liberty Bell when she shook. Alot stronger than San Francisco, from what Ive read and heard. Thats about 200 miles or so from here. My wifes got family there and it shakes a little pretty often, they dont think much about it.

Anyway, I also read somewhere that there was another fault that hasnt been active in a long time right here close to us. Two weeks ago, there was a 2.5 quake right here. I couldnt believe it. The epicenter was 40 miles to the north, but I would have never dreamed we would ever see any activity out of it. After further investigation, it seems that fault has been quite active, on a small scale, for the last few years.

I hope this one dont jump up and bite us someday....

Andy