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OneShotBandit
09-27-2005, 04:04 PM
Guys, I've been checking out the CZ-USA website and noticed they have the Safari rifles for under $900 US. These are supposed to be the ZKK and or BRNO 922 (is that right). Capstick rated these guns as true magnum Mauser action & a great rifle. I've been in the mood to buy a 458 Lott so's I can also shoot downloaded 458 (45-70 equalvilent). Anybody know the good and bad on these rifles? Thanks.

Virgil

pomoxis
09-29-2005, 09:41 PM
I have been looking for a .458 Lott myself and some of the things that other forums had mentioned is that the CZ early runs were good quality guns but because they have been "discovered" the quality has declined in the rush to produce more rifles. The problems had included the stock cracking with less than 10 rounds shot and problem feeding ammuniton.

The last problem is a big one if you have an elephant trying to turn you into toe jam.

I have not handled one so I am not sure how they feel in the hand. Have you handled one in a gun store?

OneShotBandit
09-30-2005, 10:55 AM
No I haven't seen one in person, just on the website. Wow! That second problem could be a heller! I'll never get to the Dark Continent, but still a "bad" rifle is a "bad" rifle. Thanks for the reply.

Virgil

pomoxis
10-01-2005, 09:12 AM
When you get to the .375 and larger calibers spending a little extra money is worth it. This is also a point where people buy these guns and hunt Africa once or twice and then decides to sell the gun or thier heirs sell the guns.

When ever I go to gun store I look through the used guns or consingment section. Some times the gun has been sitting on the shelf for months and the shop will be willing to cut you a deal. It sounds like you just want a "thumper" with it down load to the .458 Win level. You may be able to pick up a used gun with less than 2 boxes of ammo fired through it for the same price as a new CZ. People don't just take these guns out on a prarrie dog shoot and rung hundreds of rounds through the barrel.
At least it gives you a good excuse to check out gun shops in other areas looking for the .458.

One of the compliaints for the Winne is that to fit into the action the bullet had to be seated fairly deep and this compressed the powder. The compress powder had caused some hang fire and other dicharge problems. The last thing you want is wondering if the bullet is going to leave the barrel when a cape buffalo is grazing on your shoe laces.

The real advantage of the Lott is the extra powder space and a slightly higher velocity to drive the solid deep into the elephants skull. You do pay the price with extra recoil and if you don't need it why pay the extra $.