Knight... patent thiefs i say.

[kt]

ok i wont go that far BUT, Is it just me or do they seem to have a knack coming up with there take on a certain competitors rifles? Is it the revolution that has the ground breaking never done before trigger guard that drops out of the way so it can be primed from the rear? or how about the newer gun that breaks open like an O/U. Didnt some one else have that. Next they will have the never done before primer that requires no silly little plastic thing to use. i know they vary from the original inventors version but jeeze. Perhaps the bolt action ML is losing popularity? just a few thoughts i had while reading this morning.
kt

[jl1966]

I think all makers of firearms, and to a larger extent, industry as a whole, are guilty of copycat tactics. One company comes out with a big seller, and all the rest rush to get their version of the same thing out. The type of action on a muzzleloader is a good case in point. The only real advantages afforded by one inline action over the other are a matter of conveniece, be it cleaning or loading and priming. In a smokeless firearm the advantage of the bolt style action over the falling block type is easy to see, it allows a repeater style rifle. A muzzleloader is a one shot deal, the only thing a bolt will get you on a blackpowder gun is a familiarity if your regular deer gun is a bolt. There is an advantage in reliability in wet conditions with some types over others, but I think really you are just as well off with an old style knight as you are with any other type of action. I do really like knight rifles though:D

[JJ]

I don't think they are thieves, but they are getting spanked in market share. These "new" designs are just knights attempt to gain back some of that market. T/C is clobbering them with the Omega and the Encore and CVA ismaking a dent with it's low cost Optima series.
Knight still builds a great quality gun, but they are falling way behind in terms of innovation etc.

[Underclocked]

Probably the most unique and successful action is that of the Omega but even that rifle has roots in the past. Most any other design you see by any manufacturer is close in concept to something that came before. I don't think Knight is more guilty of that practice than anyone else, bp or otherwise.

But Knight does have a design team that seems (IMHO) to have the major objective of creating coyotee-ugly implementations. :p

Check this out for some not-so-ugly deals on Knight's better rifles:
Knight Sale about 1/3 down the page (http://members.aol.com/randymagic/savage0.htm).

[rattus58]

Now although I am a smokeless powder Proponent... why would I spend my money there?

Aloha... :cool: