Remington Bronze Points

[Ken14]

Was at Gander Mtn up the road doing some shopping when I saw a couple of guys loading up on all the Bronze Point ammo they had.(.270) I asked them what they liked about it so much and they both replied that it was the deadliest production ammo out there for deer. Anyone else know much about the bullet or it's construction?

[fabsroman]

Somehow, I doubt it is the deadliest ammo on the market for deer. I doubt these guys have shot deer with every brand bullet out there, on every size deer, in every possible angle, at every possible range, and in every possible weather condition. There might be even more variables in there.

With that said, I haven't even heard of Bronze Point ammo, but will check Remington's website as soon as I finish reading the board.

[Classicvette63]

The bronze point was Remington's version of the Ballistic tip years before there was a ballistic tip. I've never heard much good about them when used on deer. Just makes a small hole with very little expansion. Granted, they may make them a little different now. Don't see them on shelves much around here. If you want THE best Remmy bullet for deer, stick with a round nose Core-Lokt. There may not be a finer bullet around.

[gumpokc]

I could be mistaken, but it was my impression that the bronze point, was brought out to "compete" with the silver tip from Win.

if i am wrong correct me please.

[gd357]

An acquaintance used them in his .270 without much fanfare. They didn't open well (wound channels weren't much better than FMJs), trails seemed a bit longer than normal, and no one who was involved left with a good opinion of them. There are a lot of bullets that will work better, and they don't seem to be popular by the ammo stocks at the local stores. Just my $.02

gd

[Ken14]

Thanks for all the food for thought....My personal opinion is that the Nosler Ballistic Tip is by far the best deer bullet money can buy...been using them since '87....Went to Remingtons page..the bronzepoint looks a lot like the ballistic tip..but I wont bother using it.

[Rocky Raab]

The Bronze Point had been out (and with mixed reviews) for years and years before the Ballistic Tip or even the Silver Tip.

It itself was an attempt to copy an even earlier tipped bullet (from England, I think). Then, as now, the idea of the tip was to provide high ballistic coefficient, flat trajectory and then serve as a 'wedge' to initiate expansion, especially at long range/slow impact.

It did that. But the drawback was that they didn't have the manufacturing ability to control jacket thickness back then. Jackets were thicker and essentially one thickness from point to heel. So sometimes, bullets exploded because the jacket was too thin for the impact speed (or bones hit) or else didn't expand much at all because the jacket was too thick for the low speed and/or no bones hit.

Today's jackets are tapered, scored, reinforced, bonded (and maybe even baptized for all I know).

[RUMLUVER]

Rocky,


You hit that one right out of the park! That was a short, fair and good rundown on the Bronze Point bullets from Remington. The thing I would add and its not realy necessary but the original Bullet had a broze point and the new breed are plastic but colored to look bronze. Everything I have ever read about these bullets wasn't good and there were anything but consistant or reliable. I would use SST's before I would the Broze Points but I'm a Hornady fan also.

[fabsroman]

For the money, the Nosler Ballistic Tip might be the best deer bullet out there, but I am going to stick with my Barnes X bullets until I run out of the stock I have and then I am going to order some Barnes Triple Shock bullets.

[RUMLUVER]

The TSX bullets are good I used the 210gr in my .338 Rum this year for deer season and it was shot and flop situation. Didn't go anywhere but down from the shot.

[Paul5388]

The bronze point has been around since the 1950s. Mostly used in 270 and .30-06. My dad used them with good success, but couldn't handle the recoil from the old Rem pump and bought a M700 in 7mm Mag in 1963 or 1964.

Since Midway still sells bronze point bullets in .30-06 and I have some, I checked to see if they were actually plastic. You can cut them with a knife and there is still bronze under the cut.

I don't know when the silvertips came out, but I think I carried some in .30-30 around 1956.

Do you really think they're made with the same jackects they were made with 50 years ago? Why would you continue with a failure for 50+ years? The answer, you wouldn't.

I got to thinking the knife wasn't a good enough test, so I went back out and cut a tip with wire cutters. Trust me, the tip is bronze.

Here's a bronze point deer, but I don't know why my dad was holding a Marlin .30-30 when he used a Rem 760 on it. :confused:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Paul5388/DeerHunting1956.jpg

Ken14, my dad lived in Palestine on E. Lamar before he died three years ago.

[RUMLUVER]

I don't think Remington produces the Bronze Points any longer in the original for they now AccuTip bullets with bronze colored plastic tips with thin jackets. It was my mistake still calling them Bronze Points they're not they're now AccuTips.

[Paul5388]

The Remington bronze point in .308"
http://www.midwayusa.com/mediasvr.dll/image?saleitemid=749989

Here's 1000 and they are available for $147.99.
Midwayusa.com (http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=749989)

[Jack]

The Winchester Silvertip design- the original one- dates back to before WW2.

[Paul5388]

I believe you're right Jack and the original purpose of the nickel plated gilding metal cap/tip was to protect the lead bullet nose in tube magazine rifles.

[270man]

My 2-cents

I agree with most of the comments that have been posted on this subject. I believe Rocky correctly stated the intent of the BP bullets. When they were readily available, I used them and loved them in my 270 because they produced more accurate handloads than the Rem Core-Lokts. I had heard that they had a problem with adequate penetration but never verified it for myself.

One can argue that Nosler Partitions and other premium bullets are "better" for deer, but just how much "better" do you need? In my opinion, deer (both mulies and whitetails) do not need premium bullets unless smaller calibers are used. With major manufacturer (e.g., Rem, Win, Hornady) bulk bullets, you can shoot a lot, have adequate terminal performance for deer and save money.

270man