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Valigator
03-16-2006, 10:25 PM
What do you think should happen to those kids who burned all those churches down? today they revoked their bail, just wondering what you'll thought?

fabsroman
03-16-2006, 10:40 PM
I don't know much about that story, so I don't really know what should happen to them.

However, another story that you should be thrilled with, and that I am thrilled with, is the death sentence for that Florida man that raped and killed an 11 year old girl. It was a national story because he was caught on a security camera walking off with the girl. He admitted doing the crime and then wanted leniency because he has three daughters himself. What really bugs me is that he had three of his own daughters and did something like this, and then wants to get life in prison instead of death because he has three daughters. Having three daughters of his own should have been good enough reason to never even have thought about doing something like this.

Valigator
03-16-2006, 10:49 PM
Yes we in florida are very happy with the sentence the problem is we still havent fried the SOB who kidnapped, raped and dismembered Jimmy Ryce...I write the Governor every month and ask him why he betrayed the citizens of this state with his stance on a quicker death penalty and I am still feeding this beast? Oh yea we can hand the death sentence out all day long, but until the lights start dimming here in Florida, I dont hold out much hope for that sentence to be carried out... I'll tell you what the problem is...the advocates against the death penalty are louder and have a larger platform than those who are pro-death penalty...start writing your people if you have the death penalty in your state...and make noise....

PJgunner
03-17-2006, 05:10 PM
They should place those child molesters and killers in the general population instead of giving them a form of "sanctuary". Those old cons will know how to take care of them. I'd give them six months at best in the GP.
Paul B.

BILLY D.
03-18-2006, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by Valigator
Yes we in florida are very happy with the sentence the problem is we still havent fried the SOB who kidnapped, raped and dismembered Jimmy Ryce...I write the Governor every month and ask him why he betrayed the citizens of this state with his stance on a quicker death penalty and I am still feeding this beast? Oh yea we can hand the death sentence out all day long, but until the lights start dimming here in Florida, I dont hold out much hope for that sentence to be carried out... I'll tell you what the problem is...the advocates against the death penalty are louder and have a larger platform than those who are pro-death penalty...start writing your people if you have the death penalty in your state...and make noise....

val

i know just how you feel. a few year ago we had an incident here in north dakota by a bag of excrement named alphozo rodriguez who abducted a 22 year old college student from the university of n.d.

well, it's been three years now and this piece of crap has only been in a courtroom once. now they are pushing for a change of venue claiming he can't get a fair trial. he'll get a fair trial and the dna, his and hers will prove he's guilty.

i have an excellent resolution to this matter, lock him and me in a phone booth. i guarentee he ain't coming out alive.

this useless piece of garbage will become a ward of the state at a $35000 a year plus price tag till he dies. i'd really like to help that process along. this idiot has already spent 20 years of his life behind bars for 2 previous convictions. these pieces of debris need to be put down for everybodys good.

you are right, we don't have a big enough voice in the death penalty issue. and lets make some of our own noise. unfortunately the press is on the wrong side in this issue also. we could probably make all the noise we want, but it would never be reported.

good luck at your end of the u.s.a. lady.

rubicon
03-18-2006, 08:42 PM
I have no problem with the old west attitude and the hanging tree. Actually, and I may be kind of harsh, but trial, conviction, sentence, and carry it out 90 days later, If an appeal can be completely handled in that 90 days so be it, if no do not delay. The snipers here in DC area have been in jail now for a couple of years while different trials take place in different courts in behalf of different victoms. They say this process has to continue in order to give closure to each murdered victoms family. Excuse me, but one death sentence carried out expediently has to be better closure than these families biding their time, waiting to go through another trial, and knowing these two scum bags are in the big house being catered to. And the teenager who did the actual shooting gets life because of his age. He was old enough to kill repeatedly, he is old enough to be sent to his maker.

Swift
03-18-2006, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by rubicon
I have no problem with the old west attitude and the hanging tree.
He was old enough to kill repeatedly, he is old enough to be sent to his maker.

Amen!:mad:

fabsroman
03-19-2006, 01:02 AM
I don't necessarily agree with the kid getting life in prison, but I can see why the Supreme Court took the easy way out on this one holding that sentencing a minor to death is considered cruel and unusual punishment, and just as the second amendment protects the right to bear arms, there is another amendment against cruel and unusual punishment. The Supreme Court took the easy road (i.e., using the age of majority) to determine the line. The harder road would have been trying to determine another age, or maybe another method, that would subject a minor to the death sentence. Just trying to figure out if a minor should be tried as an adult is a headache of its own.

As far as appeals are concerned, I truly believe in them now. I didn't use to until a couple of years ago when I heard about some 40 guys on death row in Illinois that had been wrongly convicted and their innocence didn't come to light until we were able to do DNA testing. However, that is not the case with this guy in Florida. He confessed to killing the girl, so I think he should be executed immediately. When there is direct evidence linking a person to the crime, I am all for the death penalty right away. However, the death penalty right away, based upon circumstantial evidence, might be a little harsh.

multibeard
03-19-2006, 05:14 AM
At least the kid got life!!!!!!

My cousins 13 or14 year old step son shot and killed his father. Then he beat my cousin so bad with the shotgun that she died the next day. This all happened because he wasn't allowed to go to a school dance.

At 19 he was turned out on the streets with NO CRIMINAL RECORD!!!!!!!

From what I have heard he may be a cop now down in Florida!!!

Valigator
03-19-2006, 09:47 AM
Multibeard, I am real sorry you had that trajady in your family...and no it does not make since that a kid could commit such a heinous act and be excused from it the day he turns 18...makes no sense...I get that there are certain crimes a kid shouldnt carry around with him his entire life...but somehow the spirit of the laws just get spit on....

fabsroman
03-19-2006, 11:56 AM
That is a horrible story, and if he is a police officer, that is even worse. People like that should not be police officers. Before they allow anybody to be in law enforcement they should make them take lie detectors and one of the questions should be "Did you ever kill anybody?"