Deer hunters: what do you shoot?

[model 70]

i used to shoot my model 70 featherweight in .270 win

just curious what you all shoot.

[Steverino]

My personal caliber for deer is the .308 Winchester cartridge loaded for the anticipated hunting conditions. The rifles carried afield are either the Weatherby Mark IV Accumark ultra-lightweight synthetic/stainless for medium-long range duty or my Browning BLR for short range brush duties or medium range work.

The recent acquisition of the Winchester Model 70 Ultralightweight (also in .308) will fit somewheres in their too at some point down the road once new glass in acquired and several visits to the benchrest!;)

This should get some interesting replies.

[Ol` Joe]

The last 6 or so years a 260 Rem in first a M700 and then a Kimber M84. Before that I used a custom M700 in 7-08 for around 12-15 years. Prior to that a `06 or Ruger Super Black Hawk depending on the area I hunted. I started in the early `60s with a M94 in 32 SPCL of my dads, as did both my brothers.
I`ll likely stay with the 260 Rem. The cartridge seems to kill as well as any used so far and recoil and accuracy are as good as it gets in a hunting arm.

[Duffy]

When I lived in Pennsylvania, I used a Marlin lever action .30-30 and a Savage .30/06. Now that I am an Ohioan, I use my Remington 870 12 gauge with rifled slugs.

[Classicvette63]

Either a 760 pump in '06 or a 141 pump in .35 Rem. Also always have a Vaquero .45 on my hip. Would like to take a deer with it someday.

[fabsroman]

I killed my first deer with a Savage 110 in .30-06, which is my dad's gun. Then, I bought a Ruger 77MKII in .300 Win Mag. and that has been my primary deer gun. I also have a Rem. 700 in .270 Win that I have taken out twice, but I never had the opprtunity to shoot at a deer with it.

Over the winter, I am hoping to get a Ruger 77MKIIVT in .25-06 and plan on using it for deer as much as possible.

However, the majority of my deer have been taken with my slug gun. Initially, it was a Browning BPS with a Hastings rifled barrel, but now it is a Benelli SBE with an ER Shaw rifled barrel on it and two recoil reducers.

[Adam Helmer]

model 70,

While I have 6 scoped commercial rifles for PA deer (.243, .270, 7mmRM,.308, .30-06, and .35 Whelen) , I much prefer "as issued" military arms with hunting ammo. Most PA deer are shot at 75 yards, or less, so iron sights on my old "War Horses" do just fine.

My favorites are the Kar 98k, the 6.5 Swedes, the No1 MkIII SMLE and the Danish Madsen M58.

Adam

[CanWoodsman]

For longer ranges - older tang safety Ruger M77 in 25.06

For the thick stuff - Ruger 96/44 mag

[rainydays]

For both whitetail and mule deer I use my .257 Roberts with 117 gr. Sierras.--tr

[BILLY D.]

6,5 swede, 129gr sp. rl-19.

[ALVINNEV]

Most of my deer have fallen to my 30-06 or my 270. Shot my first elk in Colorado this past Nov. with my 7mm mag by Ruger 77. For PA deer, being of light chassis myself, I now like my 260 or 270 or 280.

[gd357]

A lot of different stuff. Just depends on where I'm hunting and what's legal. Here in Ohio, shotguns, muzzleloaders, and handguns. Out of state, about 4 or 5 different rifles depending on what I feel like using. primarily either a 7 mag or a 30-06.

gd

[Swift]

Old, tang safety, Ruger m77 in 30-06. Shootin Hornady 165gr spire point boattails.

[catdaddy]

sks with hollow points, that works awsome my doe only ran 15 yard and i hit her in the very back of the lungs
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[300 RUM]

Remington 700 BDL RMEF Edition 300 Ultra Mag 180gr Swift Scirroco

[Skyline]

Generally a .25-06, but if I am deer hunting in areas where I may get a crack at a moose or an elk, I use a .300 Weatherby with the 168 gr. TSX.

[Ridge Runner]

one of these
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h274/wv_Ridge_Runner/000_0160.jpg
or one of these
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h274/wv_Ridge_Runner/000_0161.jpg
or maybe one of the big boomershttp://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h274/wv_Ridge_Runner/000_0162.jpg
RR

[fabsroman]

RR,

Nice rifle collection. Kind of looks like my shotgun collection. Now I know why you know so much about AR's. I take it that you are a lefty, so how do you deal with the brass from the AR's flying across your face? What cartridges are the AR's chambered in, not to mention all the other rifles?

[Ridge Runner]

I've never been hit by a hot brass from an AR yet, they go foreward and just to the right, and they pile them up nicely. These are just most of the ones I hunt with, got a really large gun safe full of stuff I don't use much anymore. the rifles in the pics are
Top pic from left
Remmy 7615 chambered in 5.56, the lone upper is a J&T expedition 20" FT 1-9 twist
RRA 24" varminter, 223 wylde 1-8 twist
Tromix 20" 458 socom 1-16 twist
dedicated technologies 22" SUM 25wssm
all the lowers you see are RRA NM lowers with the exception of the 458, its a tromix TR-15 custom lower
Middle pic from left
Ruger 96 22 wmr, custom mini-30 by ARS chambered in 6mm PPC, custom mini-14 in 223, custom valmet 412 with a bansner turkey/predator choke, a savage mark 2 in 17 mach II, a custom LH rem 788 in 6mm
bottom pic from left
Ruger #1B in 270 weatherby mag, a custom by aps in 7mm Allen Mag, a Bansner UR-1 in 7mm STW and a rem. 700 bdl in 7mm rem mag.
RR

[deermeister]

When I hunt "Up North" in Michigan, I use a Remington 700bdl in .30/06.

Down here in shotgun land, I have the world's ugliest Mossberg 500 12 ga with rifled slug barrel and synthetic stock (it's actually green and parkerized). I put a Nikon 4x on it, and it hits pretty good out to 125 yards, which is coincidentally the distance from my back door to my tree line.

During muzzleloader season, I have a CVA Kodiak 209 in .50 cal.

I have also used a S & W Model 586 in .357 Magnum.

[Win75]

My favorite used to be my Winchester Model 70 Sporter Varmint in 243 Win.

That rifle got sold to fund a divorce lawyer or two...mine and hers. I got the short end of the stick.

I have been using a 6.5x55 Swedish mauser that has been sporterized. It does the job very well.

Just recently I finally found another Sporter Varmint after 14 years of looking. That one will become my #1 choice again using 100 gr. Nosler Partitions.

[Duffy]

Originally posted by deermeister
During muzzleloader season, I have a CVA Kodiak 209 in .50 cal.

Oh yeah, I have one of those too. I forgot about muzzleloader season!

BTW, Ridege Runner, awesome collection!

[fouserchris]

I use .50 CVA bobcat or .50 Traditions pursuit pro .havent gotten off the wallet to get a 12g pump yet.

[trex]

I used to use my Sako 3006 w/ 150gr SST's. I now use my Rem. Model 7 in .243 for most of my hunting. I like the 100gr Hornady Light Mag PSP's for it. I also use a Rem. 870 w/ a 23" barrel and a Buck Kicker choke. It'll hold all 18 00 Federal Premium pellets inside 20" at 40 yds. Pretty nasty!

[Adirondacks]

Ruger M77 stainless 30-06.

[BrassHog]

My daughter and I both use a Rem 600. Hers is in 243 and mine is in 308. In Florida where shots are usually short (under 100yds) they do just fine on our game but both are quite capable of sub MOA groups for as far as I care to take game due to handloads, recent pillar and glass bedding , trigger job, free floating barrel, and descent optics.

[JackRabbit]

rem.pump in 270,CVA KODIAK 209 50 cal.and 870 12 ga. ;)

[Dghantt]

30 /30 30/o6 or the 8mm mauser i inherited from dad a long time ago .

[Dan in the Delta]

I took the following to the woods last year:

.243
7mm Rem mag
.30-06
.300 Weatherby
7.65mm Mauser

This year I'll use the same except for the .300 Wby. That rifle, a Sako 75, is at Hill Country Rifles having a Lilja barrel installed. It will be a .300 Win Mag when they get done with it. I'm looking forward to reloading for it.

[ltcboy]

I use my US Rifle, Caliber .30 M1. I use 150 grn sft points with a five round enbloc clip. Bambi goes night night real quick!.

MIke

[fishnfrank]

I've used 308, 30-06, 7mm. Now i'm trying to perfect my 300 RUM. I love all of them.

[Drew_CarreyAB]

Hey Ridge Runner, Can I "borrow" any of the weapons in the top pic LOL.......I started out with a .303Brit #4Mk1 and then I bought a Winchester in .308 and then a Traditions E-209 Muzzleloader. After shooting an OK buck with a borrowed 30-06 at just a shade over 400yds I went out and bought a .300WM barrel for my T/C Encore(I now have 3 for it.... .223 26" Heavy BBl, .300WM 26" Heavy BBl, and the newest[and unfired] addition is a .50cal MZ 26" BBl).......Still working loads up in the .300WM (190gr BTSP roughly 2900-3100fps@BBL...not chronied yet, I just bought a gamma master chrony)

[8X56MS]

Most of my deer hunting is in heavy cover. I like a lever gun, and the Marlin 1894S in .44 mag is my favorite. I have bolt guns, in a variety of 'flavors', but unless the hunt is over a peanut hay field or a clear cut, I take the Marlin.
http://www.myhostedpics.com/images/Mannlicher/img1210.jpg

[Big joe]

Ruger M77 300 Win Mag
Savage 110 270 Win
Remington 700 243

[grayghost]

Ruger M-77 in 7mm Express (.280). Exotics, Whitetails, Mulies, Antelope, Black Bear, Elk & soon Africa will known its wrath. :)

[RUMLUVER]

Right now it's my .338 RUM and very shortly after my rifle is built I will be using a .264 WM.

[bsterns]

My choices 40 years ago would have been;

1. 243 win
2. 270 win
3. 300 win mag

My choices now are;

1. 6mm rem
2. 280 rem
3. 338-06 A-square

I agree with Rocky that they all kill a deer very nicely. I chose them because they give similar ballistics for 3 different bullet weight categories; 1) 80 to 90 gr. for varmints to antelope and deer, 2) 130 to 140gr. for larger deer, hogs, and sheep, and 3) 180 to 250 gr. for elk, moose, bear, etc.

I am building a 375 H&H Magnum. It might be one of my 3 choices after I shoot it a few times and it doesn't kick me too hard and if I get a chance to return to Africa. It definitely would be a choice for dangerous game since it is a minimal caliber in most African countries. I was surprised to see it show up so much as a favorite caliber. I have never shot one.

[shooterjon]

Love my Sako 270 behind a Sierra 130 gr soft point at 2950 fps it knocks em dead!;)

[ringo]

My deer rifle is a "Twede"; 6.5x55, 129gr bullet pushed by R19.

[Quigmy]

Savage99 358 WCF. Quigmy

[rickjordan]

Remington 7400 in .308 and Browning A-bolt in 06 depending on the cover and the shot. Both are deadly.

[Wahnie]

Winchester Model 70 Classic Sporter BOSS rechambered for 7mmSTW shooting 160 grain Barnes X bullets. |m/

[Talon]

25-06 Here.

Peace
Talon:cool:

[Skyline]

.25-06, .25-.284, .300 Weatherby

[Big joe]

I shoot a 270 in a Savage 110 and my boy shoots a 243 in a Remington 700. This year I'm thinking about taking my new 223 Rem...... Just kidding Rocky...See ".223 Rem deer rifle???" in the reloading forum.

[280 improvec]

For many years I used a 760 Remington in 257 Roberts. I used to handload the old 100 grain Winchester silvertips over 45 gr of 4350. I don't think I evr had any of about 25 whitetails move more than 10 yards. It was an absolutely deadly load. At present I m using a 7x57 with 120 grain handloads. Both of these cartridges were praised by Jack O'Connor and I heartily agree.:D

[1stTimeHuntingGal]

ok this is my sec year to hunt, I went and got me a 243 :)

[RUMLUVER]

Should have went with a .260.

[Talon]

Originally posted by 1stTimeHuntingGal
ok this is my sec year to hunt, I went and got me a 243 :)

Hello 1st..

Congrats. .243 plenty good deer medicine. If you hand load try 100 grain Nosler Partitions. Over the counter Rem Core Lockts are hard to beat.

Good Luck hunting!

Peace
Talon:cool:

[popplecop]

It will be a single shot, depending on what I feel like carring that day. The heaviest is Ruger No. 1, scoped in 45-70, next is a TCR 83 in 30-06 scoped, and last but not least a real light weight a Savage 219 in 30-30 with a peep sight.

[VirginiaHunter]

Hand loaded 150gr Nosler AB or Hornady 150 SST in a Winchester Mod 88 in 308, and hand loaded 180 AB in 338 WinMag Winchester Mod 70

[MOOSE 4 GOD]

7-30 Waters super contender in brush with 120gr. V--MAX
Savage 110 7MM REM MAG Left hand Bolt for the past 22 yrs. Varmit and Deer looks rough but still Knocking um down. I call that one my heat seeker knock on wood has never lost a deer. This year purchased a TC PRO HUNTER 7MM REM MAG love the rcoil stock system on it and with a 1n9 twist and 28" barrel this thing will reach out there. Also as a 15 yr. old my dad got me a 870 REM Wingmaster pump to rabbit hunt with and started Deer hunting at the age of 18 with it. 30" barrel that will shoot rifled slugs consistant at 100 yds. Killed quit a few deer with that gun. Last but not least a Walmart Special TC Black Diamond Kit with Nikon 3x9x40 scope that has done wonders from 25yds to 150yds and love it. Was going to get a PRO HUNTER 209-50 BARREL BUT IF YOU KNOW YOUR GUN AND IT WORKS WHY CHANGE?

BENNY {THE MOOSE} MOSES:D

[muledeer]

My favorite deer rifle is a Mark V .270 Weatherby Mag. I reload 130 gr Nosler ballistic tips. Nevada has alot of open country and long shots are not uncommon.
muledeer

[Baylian]

I have a .270 Win in a CZ 550 with a Bushnell Elite 3200 3-9x40. The Fereral Powershok 130gr seems to be the most accurate cartidge turning in .75 inch to 15/16 inch groups.

Good Hunting, TJ

[shooterjon]

I have my choice of a Sako - 270 with 130 gr. Sierra OR 25-06 Rugar M77 with a Sierra 117 gr Soft point OR 308 behind a 150 gr. Sierra sp. BUT if I happen to be an a dual animal hunt --Deer & Elk I move to my Sako-30-338 with a Nosler Partition 180 gr.bullet that's my story and i"m stickin to it!

[Scottyx25]

If i get out deer hunting this year i think ill take my new Norinco JW-103 for a walk or a sit in the tree stand...123 grainer at around 2400fps will do the job im sure..:D



Scotty,:)

[Esox357]

I use a Rem 700 ADL in 30.06 with a 3x9-40 Leupold scope using a handloaded 165 grain BTSP. I took a nine pointer last year with this load and am very happy with it. Esox357

[gdaddybill]

I'll be using several rifles this year but one thing I won't be using on whitetails is a premium, core bonded bullet. Lost a doe last year to a 95 grain Scirrocco in a 243--think it went through like a fmj. Followed sparse and periodic blood trail for several hours and then gave up when we heard the coyotes enjoying supper.

Looking at the Sierra 165 hpbt in 30 caliber for my 308, 30-06 or 300 Weatherby. Hoping for good penetration then hand grenade like effect.

Also considering Berger VLD's for a 25-06 and 6.5 x 55 and 62 gr Triple Shok in a 1:9 twist 22-250.

I'm hunting in a four deer county (TX) so hogs will have to pick up some of the slack.

[Adirondacks]

Second season on a Ruger M77 stainless in 30-06. Love it.

I also sometimes carry a 35 whelen built
on a mauser m98 action.
A savage 110 in .243.
A singleshot NEF handi rifle in 45-70.

[Mike Moss]

For the opener in VT I will use the new Kimber Montana in 308 Win. I will use a 150 gr bullet. Which one is not certain at this point as the Accubonds did not shoot well today.

I will take another rifle for a backup.. At the moment it's the Kimber Montana 270 WSM.

[Evan03]

my last two mulies have been taken with my 2506

my frist buck with the 25 was with a 100gr nosler bt useing imr 4831
this was a one shot kill at about 150. bullet did not exit but was found just inside the hide on the far side in perfect mushroom

this years buck was at 220 is maybe 250. useing the same rifle but difrent load. i used h4350 to push nosler new 110 accubond. this bullet punched threw the vitals and killed it instantly dead. it exited blowing blood and meat all over the place.

both bullets are very good on deer but i thgink the accubond is what im going to stick with.

[capt_joe]

Ruger MK II Blued/Black Synthitic stock, Nikon 3-9 Buckmaster scope. .270 WIN 150gr Winchester Power Point Plus ammo @ 100yd less than 1 MOA. I floated the the barrel and had a muzzle break installed. (I shoot it a lot) The trigger is tuned to 3lbs. I've been hunting with the same rifle now 5 years, I kill deer size game with one shot out to two hundred yards every year. Most all game dies with in feet of impact. I've got less than $800.00 in the whole rifle, just proves Bill knew what he was doing........

[savageman270wsm]

WILL BE USING MY SAVAGE 116 270 WSM WITH A BOYDS THUMBHOLE AND A 3X9X42 REDFIELD ILLUMINATOR (GREAT BUY ON CDNN SPORTS FOR 179 BUCKS) STOCKIS GREY LAMINATE WITH STAINLESS BARRELL, AWESOME RIFLE

[JohnS]

I use a .270 WHBY Vangraud shooting hangloads with Barnes TSX 150gr quater size groups @ 100yrds off the bipod. 3x9x40mm Kingoptics scope.

[RUMLUVER]

Will be using a 6.5x55 AI for deer and antelope hunting in 2007. Just started buying the parts to do it. I already have the receiver and the barrel and stock ar not too far behind. Should be nice when it's all done.

[VaRedneck]

Marlin 30-30.

[Riposte1]

Have to admit, I bounce around as I am interested in terminal ballistics. Have shot them with .223s through 45/70s in rifles, but nearly half were shot with handguns. All my wild boar have been with handguns.

I could be perfectly happy with most centerfire rifles for deer in any caliber from .260 Rem (Never owned a .257 Roberts but that would probably do also) to .376 Steyr (happen to have one and it works great - though it was a friend who shot the deer with it).

In some locales I would be perfectly happy with an ordinary 30-30 (killed my first deer with one and have never dropped one quicker with anything).

Riposte.

[VarmintSniper]

12ga, 30-06, .308, 30-30, 7mm mauser, 44mag

[gdaddybill]

Here's some results from my past weekend hunt near D hanis, TX. Shot a doe with my 308 and a 165 grain Berger VLD bullet--hit a bit back and at a slight angle. Fortunately I saw where the doe ran and walked straight to the deer. There was no blood trail--the bullet seemed to have exploded internally left a pencil size entry hole and jellied insides--paunch included--not a pretty sight but cleaned up OK.

We had a large sow in a trap which I dispatched with a 50 caliber muzzleloader pistol, 50 grains of 777 and a 360 grain conical. I'm a fair shot at 3 feet and the shot was terminal--full, head to leg penetration and it ended up somewhere in the dirt--looked but couldn't find it.

Late evening a big black boar walked into a sendero and paused a bit too long. 308 again this time with a 165 grain Sierra HPBT (GameKing)--probably a neglected bullet--we tend to think of all hollow points as target bullets. Shot hit just behind the ear in the neck/spine and the hog went down with a half dollar size exit hole. If you're wanting a bullet that expands rapidly for deer sized game, check this one out--it's available in most calibers.

[moneychanger]

moose for god i've noticed you can buy a conversion kit to
to upgrade your encore to the pro hunter.

[temmi]

I shoot:
MGA .338WM --- 200Gr Nos BT
BAR .338WM --- 200Gr Nos BT
Rem 700 BDL 30-06 --- 150 gr -- Nos BT

[Rottweiler]

Sauer 202 in .270 win

[shooterjon]

Deer Guns by choice as follows:
1. Kimber in 308
2. Sako 270
3. Rugar 25-06
WOW no caliber loyalty here I use all 3 at any given time,Go figure:rolleyes:

[jplonghunter]

Originally posted by RUMLUVER
Will be using a 6.5x55 AI for deer and antelope hunting in 2007. Just started buying the parts to do it. I already have the receiver and the barrel and stock ar not too far behind. Should be nice when it's all done.

RUMLUVER

Hunt deer with 1910 Mexican Mauser chambered 6.5x55,cold hammer forged 24"barrel,stocked fancy walnut with tulip trim,scoped Tasco World Class 4x16.Deadly accurate with 129gr Nosler Partition. I believe youwill be very pleased with choice.
Good hunting.

[mnken]

303 British 30-30 223 sks 30-06 50 cal. Black Powder next year it will be a 243. I have shot 50+ deer in my life time I have wounded 2 that I never found, both were shot with a 30-06 my fault. ( Young and foolish) Now I pick my shots better, I don't shoot at running deer and don't take brushy shots. I only want to make clean kills, if I can't, I leave the deer to be hunted another day.

Have a great day!

Ken

[ETXHNTR]

LIVING IN EAST TEXAS IVE USED EVERYTHING FROM 30/30,30/06,.243 DOWN TO A .223. MOST COMMONLY I USE A REMINGTON 7400 CHAMBERED IN 30/06 WITH A NIKON BUCKMASTER SCOPE.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE INPUT ON THE .223 AS A DEER ROUND,IVE HEAD SHOT SEVERAL WITH IT BUT AM UNDECIDED IF I WANT TO ALLOW MY WIFE TO USE IT HER FIRST TIME TO KILL A DEER.IM REALLY WORRIED ABOUT POOR SHOT PLACEMENT.ITS ALL ABOUT AN ETHICAL,HUMANE KILL.
ALL COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS APPRECIATED.

[jplonghunter]

EXTHNTR

All caps is considered improper post so you may not receive response.
That being said ,there are a lot of questions remaining ,if you are going to arm your wife,i.e;do you have a large insurance policy with her as the beneficiary.
I personally believe .223 is a varmint caliber and should not be used for deer. would reccommend minimum of 25 caliber (.257 or 25-06 ).

jplonghunter

[jon lynn]

Ten year old Savage 11 .308 with a Leupold VX-II 3-9x with a good 'ol #1 German Post

[doehunter]

After a few years of shooting a 7mm mag,i found the recoil sucks and the damage to the meat not worth the extra yards of shot distance.These days i shoot a 7mm-08 remington in 140gr.This is a great cal.for deer down to yotes.The Recoil is 1/3 of the bigger cals.but the distance u can be deadly at is out to 300+.I have yet tracked a deer more than 75 yards and no meat loss..If u are thinking of bringing a young hunter into the sport,try the 7mm-08 in 100gr.no recoil...

[ghunter]

I shoot a Remington model 7400 in the 280 calibur.Like it alot.

[Skinny Shooter]

Originally posted by model 70
Deer hunters: what do you shoot?

Brown Bess 75cal.
Point Blank Range: 50 yards :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/xm15e2/Bess.jpg

[RUMLUVER]

Just had a 6.5-06 AI built this year plan on using it for deer season this year. It realy likes 140gr Grand Slams alot.

[Minihuntur]

Just got a Weatherby Vanguard Syntetic Stainless chambered in .243 Winchester, put a 2.5-10x42mm Tasco Varmint scope, Rock Mount bipod, and Kolpin sling on it. Cant wait to use on whitetail.
Minihuntur

[TheSollyLama]

For years I hunted with a .30-30 and even shot a deer with an SKS once- dead on impact, I was impressed actually.

But last night I bought a Weatherby Vanguard Deluxe chambered for .257 Weatherby Mag.
It's my 'one gun' to hunt everything from antelope and mulies to elk and bear.

I'll let you know how it works out next season when I get to put it to use.

[skoonz]

BSA CF2 .270Win. 130gr 3-9x40 Bushnell

[RUMLUVER]

Just added a .260 improved with a 35degree shoulder to the grab bag. I used my 6.5-06AI this year with the 140gr GS worked great bang flop just the way I like it.

[Andy L]

The more I shoot it, the more Im convinced I love it. 6.5x55 Swede in CZ 550 American. 129 gr Hornady SP over 46gr of IMR 4350.

Great deer rifle. :cool:

[Duffy]

Instead of what I posted on this thread in 2006, this year I'll be using the 12-gauge H&R Ultra Slug Hunter I bought over the summer.

[RUMLUVER]

Andy, I quite agree the 6.5x55 Swede is great catridge. My dad loves it and that is why I am having one built for as we speak. I used his old one to build my 6.5-06AI. Thought it would be a nice present for him.

[TKO]

7mm Ultra mag when in Colorado, w/ 140 Partition
.243 or .308 here in Ca.