View Full Version : .270 Win scope? .22-250? .223?
Baylian
05-28-2006, 02:01 AM
I was wondering if you all might enlighten me on which scope and mount system would be best for a .270 Win.?
How about a .22-250? or a .223?
Thanks in advance!
TJ:confused:
L. Cooper
05-28-2006, 10:32 AM
Best? For what?
I'm not trying to be difficult, but which scope is best really does depend on what you want the scope to do.
My .270 is a deer rifle. It wears a Leupold fixed power 4X scope.
My .22-250 is a coyote rifle. It wears a fixed 6X scope.
Don't own a .223. My son's .243 gets used for everything because it is his only center fire rifle. He has a 3-9 variable on his.
My take on it is rifles for specialized uses need scopes for specialized uses. General purpose rifles need variable scopes for a variety of situations. There is certainly no "best" scope for any given cartridge.
One piece of advice I can give very confidently is to get very good quality scopes. Spend the money. No rifle is good for anything with poor sighting equipment. You will never regret spending what it takes to get the optical quality, durability, and repeatable adjustments of top quality scopes.
JackRabbit
05-28-2006, 02:33 PM
Well you could go with the same scope on the 223 as the 22-250
as they are both good varmint guns.When I purchased my 22-250
I had full intentions of putting a leupold on it,never having owned one.So when I was looking at a 4-16x40 var.II the guy behind the counter asked me to now look at this.A Bushnell 3200 Elite
4-12x40.Which I found much easier to pick up objects with and the sharpest images then any I looked at.
As for the 270 a good 3-9x40 is all you really need.Unless it is gonna be your primary all around gun for varmints as well as big game.In that case you could use the same Elite 3200 4-12x40.
Or the Leupold var.II 4-16x40.
Now if you are using the 270 primarily for deer in the woods,you may want to go with a fixed 4x40.Either way you know what you are going to use each gun for what game,the best thing for you to do is to look at each scope carefully as they all look good indoors and at close images.I suggest looking at the higher end scopes first and then compare them with ones that may suit your pocket book.Remembering you don't want to cheap out on optics.
But you don't need to break the bank either.Isuggest the Leupold
or the Elite 3200 in what ever size you decide.Good Luck and
Good Hunting.
Ken
;)
Assuming you'll use the 270 for open country hunting for deer, etc., I'd lean toward a 3-9 or a fixed 6x scope.
The 223 and 22-250... if you use them as varmint rifles for prairie dogs or rock chucks, power helps. I'd look at something in the 4-16 power range.
If you hunt coyotes with the 223 or 22-250, something like a 3-9 or 4-12 might be best.
There are a couple basic rules to be aware of. The higher power scope you buy, the more weight and bulk, and the smaller the field of view. That's why a 3-9 might be better for deer and coyote than a 4-16. The 3-9 is less bulky, and has a wider field of view at the low power setting. A wider field of view makes it easier to find the target quickly.
You can get a good scope, or a cheap scope.
If you want a good scope, buy something from Leupold, Burris, Nikon, Pentax, Zeiss' Conquest line, Weaver's Grand Slam line, or Bushnell's 3200 or 4200 series. All are quality products.
One more thing...objective lenses. That's the front lens. Some say bigger is better (they're wrong :) ). On a 3-9 power, a 40 MM objective is quite sufficient to gather all the light you can use during legal shooting hours.
Baylian
05-30-2006, 01:11 AM
I am planning to use the .270 to hunt mule deer, cow elk, and maybe sheep or goats in Utah. Ranges vary greatly depending on where you are. Cedars and timber are short (under 100 yards) range. Canyons and hills are long range.
The .223 or .22-250 will be used for long range varmints and whatever range coyotes. I plan on putting this scope on a carry rifle not a varmint rig.
I hope this helps and thanks for the replys!!! TJ :)
Brithunter
06-02-2006, 04:27 AM
For your .270 rifle it would hard ................... very hard to go wrong with a good fixed 6x scope. Specifically a 6x42mm allows good all round useage. I use a 6x42mm Schmidt & Bender and have another 6x42 Deutsche on another rifle. Also have a 3-9x42mm Lisenfeld which is set on 6x ;)
Now on the varmint type rifles
I would go for a varible scope as you are more likely to use the higher power magnifications when using it on small varmints but again 6x is plenty for Coyote and Fox :p .
As several have already stated good quality optics are a good investment as you can see the little things more clearly :D and you cannot shoot what you cannot see ;) Now I know that they are getting into the US more now but the Meopta line of scopes is well worth a look. They come for the Czech republic and have been making scopes fro a long time :) I have a couple a 7x50A and an old 3x which was meant to fit a Brno ZG47 rifle. Good luck with your choice and let us know how it works out.
On the .270 I'd recommend standard base Leopold mounts & rings for a 1" tubed 3-9x40. Invest in the best glass you can get for your money. I don't have Meopta, but have heard of them -- same for Docter Optic, which I do have. I have a bunch of other European glass which is great but expensive. Even if you picked up a used Leopold Vari X II or III you'd be ok for what your purpose is, although in dark timber late in the evening you'd be hard pressed to make the shot with standard US crosshairs.
For the 22cf's, there's quite a few scopes out there so it's a matter of personal taste and the size of your pocketbook. You could always upgrade and start also with a standard 3-9x40 or 4-12x40, and nowadays there's a bunch of 4-20x44s or so. Just glance through theopticzone.com, bearbasin.com or swfa.com and you've got a variety to look at with prices for everyone, Waidmannsheil, Dom.
Steve Tweedie
07-21-2006, 06:58 PM
My remington .270 7400 wears a Maine Vue Optics 3-12x50AO. Great for those long shots and set at a lower power is good for those up close and personal encounters as well. Plus it pulls in plenty of light for those low light situations.
Wahnie
07-22-2006, 03:51 PM
As always I'm gunna reccomend a Bushnell Elite 4200. The 2.5-10X40mm would be great on the .270 because you can get a nice wide angle at 2.5X for brush hunting but still have enough power for hunting open territory at the other end of the spectrum.
Since you're varmint rifle is also going to be a carry rifle, I'd reccomend the same scope. They also have an Elite 4200 4-16X40mm which would work too, but its a little heavier than 2.5-10X.
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