reloading 223 canelure

[MH357]

I'm having trouble finding a low 60 something grain projectile with canelure to load in my ar flat top target rifle. I'm thinking of purchasing the 62 grain m885 poulled bullets from Gi brass.

http://www.gibrass.com/projectiles.html

$60.00 for 1000 projectiles but I wonder if they will be in good shape from being removed from loaded ammo. I found a speer bullet but have found very bad reviews of them on midways web page.

Any suggestions. The pulled bullets seams cheap and could be a good deal if they are in good shape and consitant. Worried they may not be as acurate.

Thanks Mike H

[HPBTMTCH]

MH, why is it that you need a bullet with a canelure ?

[MH357]

My reloading manual recomends useing bullets with canelure in automatic rifles. I figure the weight isn't enough to worry about the bullet moving forward in the magazine but if I was to use a thirty round magazine maybe the last few would have move forward from inertia of all the other bullet that have been fired.

Mike

[Catfish]

The main reason for the crimp and the canatlure is to keep bullets in the mag. from pulling during fireing of the rifle. The recoil of the AR is not great so crimpimg bullets in the canatlure is probibly not nessary to keep them from backing out of the case. I shoot all bolt or single shot break gun and load for accuracy and have found that it is best to pay no attention to the cantlure and seat the bullet for it most accurate jump.
As for the pulled bullets, FROM WHAT I HEAR, them make good blasting ammo and are CLOSE TO new FMJ in accuracy.

[HPBTMTCH]

I have reloaded and fired thousands of rounds through AR15`s and AR10`s and have never needed a canelure. If you think it is still an issue, get the neck bushing dies to make sure there is enough neck tension, but with the .223, i doubt it would make much difference.

[Rocky Raab]

A cannelure on bullets for semi-autos is also there to keep the bullets from being jammed INTO the case during feeding. When or if the bullet hits the feed ramp, it can be jammed deeper into the case - a little or a lot. That sure upsets your precise "off the lands" distance, but it can also raise pressures.

The worst part is that you never know if it's happening. You can't inspect the round that's in the chamber unless you eject it and measure it. But then you have to feed it in again, and you can't tell AGAIN.

[Lycanthrope]

I've not had problem with setback using non cannelure bullets in my AR's.