Trade-Ltd Edition Colnago Carbon Fiber Bike Frame For Beretta 391 Teckny

[Steverino]

Sorry Fabs!


I couldn't resist :D :D

Hopefully, this brought a smile to what sounds like an exercise in futility.

I have personally used E-Bay for links only to find other online stores and have made out pretty well on archery equipment a few years back. My father-in-law has a very large (40K-50K) worth of older die-cast collectible cars that he is looking to unload and while my wife keeps wanting him to sell via E-Bay, from all of the horror stories that I have read and heard about from folks, am more inclined to just find interested collectors at toy shows.

Sorry for any confusion folks. (For those that may be scratching their heads at this particular post, please read the 'E-Bay' post in "Almost Anything Goes."

[fabsroman]

Steverino,

ROFLOL

You got me pretty dang good. At first, I couldn't believe that anybody on this board would have a Colnago carbon fiber frame other than me. Just before I opened the thread, I figured somebody was pulling my leg.

For the right Colngao frame, I would go out and buy a Beretta 391 Teknys brand new and trade it for the frame. Can't trade mine because I shoot it too well. LOL

[Steverino]

You'll have to post some pics of your "finished product" Fabs when you're done with your bike project. It sounds sweet!

[petey]

I have a 1980-something Huffy bike I'll part with for like $5 of your interested? ;)

[fabsroman]

I remember those Huffy bikes, and they were worth about $5 back when they were made. They were the heaviest thing I ever saw in bikes.

The new bike should come in just below or at 15 pounds once I am done putting it together. I'll make sure I weigh it once I am done with it.

At the rate I am going, it will not be ready until the end of hunting season. The frame is supposed to come at the end of September and I am already having one heck of a time getting rims on e-bay for it.

[Steverino]

Those POS Huffy bikes did weigh a ton but I do have to say, their frame welds did somehow hold up to two hyper-active boys performing their own version of Evil Knevil-type stunts on homemade plywood jump launch ramps over plastic garbage containers out in the street in front of my folks house. :D

[petey]

Bet you weren't wearing a helmet while doing that either? Amazing how we didn't kill ourselves during the "day" and how the world has to (save) our youths from themselves now. Things that were perfectly fine 10 years ago will get you practically locked-up now. How about when I used to ride in the hatch of a Fiot and now my kids gotta ride in a car or booster seat until they are almost old enough to drive!

[Steverino]

Yup Petey,
No helmet, gloves, or athletic supporter for those abrupt stops either!:D By all accounts, I should probably be singing soprano in my church choir!

There were five of us kids that used to roll around the back of his station wagon- not a car seat to be found or a seat belt employed. My brother and I still marvel at Dad's ability to somehow locate us with the back of his hand as he drove, even with all of the rolling around, when we acted up.

My personal favorite was the school monkey bars and jungle gym strategically placed in the schoolyard over a nice slab of concrete. You made damn sure you hung on!:D

[fabsroman]

Petey,

There is a huge difference between when we were kids and today, both in product safety and traffic. You probably don't see the traffic difference where you live, but you got a glimpse of it while you lived down here.

20 years ago, bicycle helmets consisted of a couple of strips of leather over ones head. Nowadays, they have plastic and styrofoam helmets that are much better. The technology is available to save lives, so it should be used. Same goes for motorcycle helmets, crumple zones in cars, seat belts, air bags, etc. This stuff just wasn't available back when we were kids, with the exception of seat belts. If I had a choice of wearing a seatbelt, having my air bags go off, and having my car totalled in a crash, yet walking away from it without any problems, versus having a tank that barely gets scratched in an accident but having my vertebrae relocated, I think I will pick the former over the latter, and I am sure you would too.

The streets I used to ride my bike on 20 years ago are so crowded with traffic that I try to avoid them as much as possible. One road that you are familiar with, route 97 a/k/a Georgia Avenue, I used to ride all the way up to I-97 right after school and into rush hour. That would be sure death today. I find that the best times to ride are between 10:00 and 3:00. After that, my life is in serious jeapordy.

Same issue with car seats, motorcycle helmets, etc. There are just way too many cars on the road and people are driving much more than they used to. It is now normal for people to commute over an hour each way to work. That leads to more auto accidents. With more auto accidents, you have a greater possibility of more deaths.

At the end of the day, laws are in place to keep the idiots in line. I am sure that responsible parents will make their kids wear helmets because they understand that a human head dropped from the height it would be located on a bicycle, would split open like a watermelon upon impact with concrete or asphalt. Likewise, I am sure you will have your kids wearing seatbelts in the car because of the flying threw the windshield factor during an accident. The laws are for the people that don't do this.

One woman was arrested here in Frederick County for having her kids locked in the trunk of her car. An officer saw her let them out at a gas station while she was getting gas, and then watched her put them back in when she was ready to leave. Her reason for doing this is because these kids wanted to ride in the trunk. Come on now.

[skeeter@ccia.com]

Is all this safety thing for the kids or for the parents?...I know we use to do thing when kids that would get your hide tanned faster than if sent out to a tannery....so this is the point.....we can't paddle a 'child' in school for punching a teacher..might hurt his feelings...yet as I sit on my porch and watch them walk past the house, they punch signs, run over the hoods of cars, smoke, cuss, punch, kick, spit, at each other and brag about how they f????d up someone..they arent any softer...we just think so.....make them wear a styro helmet on a bicycle when trail riding......when they leave the front yard they punch signs, run over the hoods of cars, smoke, cuss, punch, kick, spit, at each other and brag about how they f????? up someone....
you don't let them mow the grass becaues they might break a fingernail so while you do it for them, they walk past the next neighbor while he is mowing his grass and toss empty pop bottles, trash onto his yard and sidewalk and say words at 6 yrs old that weren't even invented back in our days when they get hollered at..( I still duck when I hear someone say that one big word I asked my mother what is meant when I was a kid) I sure did get a reacton from that one...but I'm still alive...I'm going to tell my mommy you picked on a child....They are way way tougher than most think....not any different than you or I when we fell off the monkey bars or crashed our bikes..and broke a few bones...only thing different now is they break bones by punching signs, windows, pop machines...each other while we ......protect them from themselves...it is all for the parent.....and those that pass the laws to make one wear a helmet...like our past governor of pa did..guess what...he owned a motorcycle helmet factory...someone is making money on all the safety items somewhere...some parent owns those bike helmets.

[fabsroman]

The bad behaviour is the result of poor upbringing, most likely because parents do not spend the amount of time with their kids that they should. We are to busy multi-tasking to spend real time with our kids.

As far as the helmet is concerned, I still think it is a good idea. I read way too many cases where bad things happen and a lot of them could be prevented. Yeah, most of us survived when we were kids, but one of my friends wrecked in a bike race and ended up paralyzed. He ended up breaking a vertebrae in his neck when his head hit the asphalt and he was wearing a helmet. I am sure the helmet saved his life. Granted, the rest of you might say he is better off dead than paralyzed, but who really knows buy him. Things happen, like me almost running over a young boy while leaving the post office today. There must have been about 15 of them riding their BMX bikes on the sidewalk on the opposite side of the street. I was pulling out of the post office and making a left. At the same time, one of these kids decided to be smart and jump the curb and ride across the lane I was trying to turn into, the middle turn lane, and the oncoming traffic lane so that he could get across the street. He didn't see me in the middle of my turn when he decided to execute the manuever, and was quite surprised to see my car there. Luckily, nothing happened, but he also wasn't wearing a helmet.

The helmet laws aren't there to make people money, I can guarantee you that. Look at the motrocycle helmet laws. I think they are a good thing. My brother survived a wreck at 100 mph and his helmet was all scraped up. He can remember hearing the helmet scrape against the asphalt while he was wondering how long it would be before he stopped. The only thing he "forgot" to wear that afternoon was his leather jacket because it was going to be a short ride to Hooters. Guess what, most of his road rash was on his upper body and he had a worn out a spot of skin the size of a quarter on his elbow to the extent that we could see bone.

I bet Ben Roethlisberger (sp.) regrets "forgetting" his helmet in the basement before his motorcycle wreck. How somebody can "forget" their helmet is beyond me. When I am riding my bicycle, I feel naked without my helmet on. Likewise, I feel naked without my seatbelt on while I am driving.

Yes, some safety items outweight their benefit, but a $20 helmet for a child that could possibly save that child's life isn't one of them, especially if they are your kid. My dad would never let me out on the street to go on a training ride without my helmet, and I hated it, but now I see his point.

Just as we do not point a gun at anybody because it MIGHT be loaded, we should wear helmets because we MIGHT get into an accident.

I have ABS, airbags, and seatbelts in my car, and you can bet they were included in the price of the car one way or another. I have never used them and will be happy to never ever have to use them. Same goes for my life insurance. Same goes for my bicycle helmet.

Yeah, kids are terrible nowadays, and if you kid is like what you described, you have nobody to blame but you and the child's mother. However, that doesn't mean they should go without a helmet while riding a bike. It just means they should get a good spanking (i.e., the PC term) and a stiff punishment for their actions.

[Steverino]

Since I was the slob that got this whole train going (derailed???) for this 'Swap and Shop' post...

If anyone is interested in any die cast older Ertl or First Gear cars or trucks, drop me a PM.

Whew! There, now I feel better...:rolleyes:

[skeeter@ccia.com]

Now Steve, why would you call yourself a slob just because a point was made..be it derailed....is called conversation..anyhow I too fabs wear my seatbelt and motorcycle helmet (even now it is optional in pa)..we just won back the freedom of choice there..(something we as Americans are loosing every day). My kids when younger also wore the bicycle helmets because I think it is a good idea...my whole point was the picture as a whole..parents protecting every aspect of a kids life when they 'play' so rough and tough when not home... Whew none of the kids I spoke of above were mine...they were taught better..and knew the outcome otherwise...
Back on track for bike frames..anyone see the land speed record attempt on a bicycle?.. 100mph +...a factory bike held up while his homemade one lost one of the welds...ouch what a crash he took.....Click click click click steve is probably the sound his bike made on the way home.

[Steverino]

"Now Steve, why would you call yourself a slob just because a point was made..be it derailed....is called conversation"

I know, I know Skeeter. Must be the German in me wanting to keep "Order." LOL I never take myself too seriously and that's a good thing!;)

I agree with you whole-heartily when it comes to the parents "protecting" their kids. I unfortunately had to reprimand one of my staff members yesterday (early 20's fella, nice guy) because I gave him a task to do and he blew it off- (actually, he told one of my other staff members to do it for him because 'he was too busy.') So when I got wind of this, I confronted him. Of course, I had to find him first and wouldn't you know it, I find him out back behind the plant having a cigarette. What a quinky-dink!

:D

I'll spare the gory details but suffice to say, after sitting down with this fella alone up in a front office, he was indignant, self-righteous, and downright irritated that I took offense to his handling of this issue (and some others) I could tell that this kid had never or at least very seldom (I'm being generous here, I know) been sat down and disciplined for anything. My staff is made up of all men who are sports nuts so I try and utilize alot of sports analogies to bring team types of concepts home to the group. Usually it works, sometimes...like yesterday, I just have to hope that I'm not Parcells stuck with my own T.O.:rolleyes: