The Islamic reaction

[jon lynn]

I know I have to word this carefully, so here it goes.

Why can an Islamic figure go and say death to America, or Islamic leaders can say they will drive Israel in to the sea? And we can't-don't or won't respond with a thing.

But when the Pope says something (or any one) else, ALL the muslem world protest. These guys in Indonesia said the Pope must be punished for his words!

For the last five years, we have been pumped with "True Islam is peace" but to be totally honest, I havent seen it. Every tiny bit of non-muslem/Islamic words-pictures-questions are the cause of huge protest, and their so called peace and understanding goes right out the door, then the "Death to" and "Punsihment" flow out of their non-pork eating mouths.:mad:


But just what do I know, after all I am just an INFIDEL!

[BILLY D.]

Originally posted by jon lynn
I know I have to word this carefully, so here it goes.

Why can an Islamic figure go and say death to America, or Islamic leaders can say they will drive Israel in to the sea? And we can't-don't or won't respond with a thing.

But when the Pope says something (or any one) else, ALL the muslem world protest. These guys in Indonesia said the Pope must be punished for his words!

For the last five years, we have been pumped with "True Islam is peace" but to be totally honest, I havent seen it. Every tiny bit of non-muslem/Islamic words-pictures-questions are the cause of huge protest, and their so called peace and understanding goes right out the door, then the "Death to" and "Punsihment" flow out of their non-pork eating mouths.:mad:


But just what do I know, after all I am just an INFIDEL!

dear fellow infidel

they also say how the muslim religion is one of tolerance. :D :D :D :D :D :D

i have never seen one modicum of tolerance on their part. they can't even tolerate nativity scenes at christmas time.

i better quit. pepcid time.

[gregarat]

They also will not tolerate Cartoons! They will kill and burn over the issue.
If our president uses the term "Islamofacist", he must retract his statement! Even if the Islamic countries are in fact facict.
If this is a religion of pice, why do they take ruthless violent action before doing anything else?


All I have to say is "Viva de Papa!!!!!! "

[rickjordan]

They seem to be hypocritical almost to a fault.

[Valigator]

You know I am starting to learn if you say something enough it can be a full-filling prophesy....

"Death to Islam and the Barbarians who follow it"

[Andy L]

Islamics would make good democrats, from what I can see.....

[PJgunner]

Val said, "Death to Islam and the Barbarians who follow it"
Dog gone! Somebody finally got it right.

If islam is the religion of peace, then I'm Superman's younger brother. This garbage got started in the year 1096 AD the first time and at the last ending in 1314 AD, it was hoped that it was over and done with. Not so. What the rulers of non-Islamic countried apparently do not realize is they're making another bid to take over the world, and through either our laziness, lack of attention, or just plain stupidity, they're succeeding. Islam is the fastest growing religion world wide and also the fastest growing religion here in the U.S. It used to be mainly among disenfranchised black people, but according to a report I saw on ABC News, it's now among middle and upper middle class women. :confused:
Most religions are reasonably tolerant of all the other religion, but Islam is not. If you are not a Muslim, you are an infidel. They give you two choices, convert or die.
I'm of the thought that if those in charge in non-Muslim nations don't hurry up and get their heads out of their rectal orifaces like right now, we are going to be in serious trouble. Frankly, I think we're already in serious trouble, but what do I know?
Oh, if I offended a Muslin, TOUGH!
Paul B.

[Dghantt]

Maybe this is a little over the top but , maybe the pope should issue a "fatiwah " making it ok to kill muselems . just like their clerics do . turn about is fair play right . then we can tell them how peaceful we are as we nuke their butts of course i too am just an infidel

[8X56MS]

Jon, I see no reason to pick your words carefully on this issue.

What is astounding about all this, is the deference the West shows these bronze age thugs. Europe more than anywhere else, is absolutly terrified of these peace loving muslims.
As a consequence, the EuroEunuchs frame the USA as the real enemy, and kick sand in our face for having the chutzpah to stand up to the muslims. The EU knows that the muslims will bite them, or blow up their families, so in fear, they attempt to placate them. All this does is show weakness.
The muslims have learned quickly, that just by throwing a riot, and threatening, that the West will cave in.
As I have said many times, sooner or later, these followers of a false prophet and god will have to be dealt with.
Yesterday, to prove that they are real men, they murdered an Italian Nun in Somalia. She was a nurse, in their country to help women and children. They shot her in the back. I doubt that the Italian Government will even remark on this issue.
Italy has devoted all its intelligence efforts to capturing American CIA guys for the rendition of a known terrorist, who was in Italy to plan attacks on Italy. Go figure.

[Brant Buster]

Why does the 'drive-by media' (a.k.a. 'Al Meedja') always report on how bad and intolerant someone's comments or cartoons are, but never complain about one damn hostile word from the 'religion of tolerance!'

Yesterday I saw in a pickup truck's window a 'terrorist hunting permit.'

Made me smile!

[Gotcha!]

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[jon lynn]

Islamics would make good democrats, from what I can see.....



Even "Wild Bill" wouldn't cut a womans head off, heck Monica is still walking around!:D


But yesterday on SKY, BBC and CNN-Int. the new chant is: "The world will convert to Islam or die!":rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

In many Muslem controlled areas of the world, they have earthquakes, floods, I mean 'ACTS of GOD', get where I am going with this? When mortal men fly planes in to our buildings, it was the 'Will of Allah' But when GOD does seem to hit them time-after-time, they beg for our: Western, pork eating, Jesus worshiping, freedom loving Infadels' food and money.

But did anyone notice when the American (born in Iran) and is a muslem, (but seems very nice anyway) paied $20,000,000 to fly with the Russians to the Space Station. On her way the alarm was up for a signal of smoke and/or dangerious fumes being detected on the station.

I know I am getting childish, but it seems TO ME (and maybe just me) that the Lord is sending THEM a message

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[Cal Sibley]

You know for most of history since we entered the AD era, Muslims have been calling the shots. It's only since about 1700 that our western cultures have risen to the top. I look at problem spots in the world today and it mostly seems to center around a resurgence of the Muslin faith: the Philippine Island of Mindanao, The Kashmir region of India, Thailand just overthrew its government and installed a Muslim leader, Chechnas breaking away from Russia, the Muslim vioence in our western societies, and lots, lots more. I see no end to it and don't think we're reading these people and their ling term goals correctly. We need to take a closer, harder look and make a long term solution to the problem. It isn't pretty, but what are we going to do about it? Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal

[DON WALKUP]

i tend to be a bit more on the moderate side.

if i were president/king/ruler/CIC, i would have the skies over iran, no. korea, venezuela so full of b52's dropping 500 pounders, gas air bombs, cluster ordinances, cruise missles, smart bombs etc they'd not see the light of day until there were no more of them left. then we'd use their place to park our air fleet.

these types of political people have to be dealt with from a stand point of power...not politeness. you have to stick a 9mm into their mouths and tell them "this is the way it's gonna be, or i'll blow your head off!" if they don't comply...blow their heads off...period.

our congress is so timid, so complacent, so worried that they will offend someone that all they do is stand and wring their hands, chew their fingernails and plead to negotiate or to debate. by the time they finish, it's too late! they blew it in korea and veitnam for us, they shouldn't be allowed to blow this...there's too much at stake.

we have to allow 'tolerance' and religious freedom to all but christians in this country now. when the muslims are allowed to take over, ALL will end by the sword that is not islam. that's their "marching orders" from the koran/quaran.

can you imagine hillary clinton, nancy pelosi, barbara boxer, diane feinstein and rosie odonnell being told to report to be fitted for a burka?

i'd better get back to decaf coffee...:mad:

[Darkwolf]

Y`know... the above listed might do rather well in a Burkha... and remain isolated in thier houses unless accompanied by a male relative who instructs them what to say and when to say it....:p

Thier attitudes rather remind one of the American isolationist stance just before WW2 that took the position that concentration camps, military invasions and forced labour programs were just european problems... Like a hostile foriegn mindset that seeks world domination through violence will never have anything to do with THEM...

Peace in our time!



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.... yeah, the Pope quotes a historical document from the 1500`s about islam spreading it`s faith by the sword and the celestial faithful respond by burning churches in Pakistan and killing a nun in North Africa...


nothing like murder and arson to prove how peaceful you are....:rolleyes:

[Valigator]

I skipped thru the last couple of post on this subject but let me tell you what I am reaping from the internet....if you say something enough times people start to believe it.....I am making it my mission to say what I feel enough times...with diplomacy I also might add....that it will start to sink into peoples heads.....if you have an issue you believe firmly enough in......make it heard....

[Lilred]

Here goes the simple minded redneck....

First off...religion is just a cover fer these fools. While I do think that that Islam is a religion....there are people who use it as a pad fer the whip. Kinda like those preachers on tv whos always beggin fer money to line "God's" pockets...it just an excuse and a cover to get away with what they want to really do.

I caint beat up a religion. Nobody can...it's just a different way of thinkin. BUT...when they cross a certain moral line...then religion should be thrown out the window.
The other thing I dont git...is they follow the prophet Mohammed. Now from what I gather...he is a prophet who lived at the time er after Jesus. They are classified as Christians...I think. So therefer...apparently they just threw the Old Testament out the winder where it lists the 10 commandments etc etc.
OK...that there tosses the Christian thing...cause no matter what denomination you are..at least the old testament plays a part in how you interpet the bible.
Therefer...that takes me back to usin religion as a cover.

As fer as the U S of A states doin anythin...I think we poitically and socially have our hands tied. Cause look at it like this....Hitler killed millions because of their religion and the fact that he considered them an inferior race. So...if we went over there and blew everybody to smithereens....would we not be in that same classification? Granted....I know they are killin people and makn general havoc all over the world...and I know that them fools should be in Hitler's catagory a helluva lot more than we are....but we would appear to the world as Hitler..cause that's just the way it works unfortunatley.
I still think we would be doin the world a favor by doin that tho...but it just aint that easy I'm afraid....

[Valigator]

I get exactly what your saying Lilred, but I personally dont think that the choices are that extreme...we dont have to say or preach we are a democracy with the ability to say what we want as an example but then on the other hand blow some distant part of the world up because it threatens us....I think we should learn and analyze from the world around us...I read the newspapers from all over the world almost everyday, its amazing how crime and punishment can vary from everywhere.....I read alot about sex crimes in other parts of the world and how these societies are grappling with it.....I am thinking Jesus people...form a think tank and research what works and what doesnt by the countries who are dealing with it, I liken the US looking at Great Britian and the influx of the Muslims and how it has effected their society, or France which have huge numbers of Muslims because they were so open with their immigration laws....we as United States Citizens should have the research and forethought to nip this crap in the bud, because of what the Muslim population has done to these countries, I have this saying and I think it applies to most things in life "Liars can figure, but figures dont lie" we are not in a perfect world we need to quit making policies as if we were...

[Steverino]

I agree with majority of the posts, largely that this will certainly have the makings for a much larger issue if it is not dealt with now.

Your concerns Lilred are valid but the world condemns us now regardless of our activity or inactivity. We are the 'bully on a hill."

Unlike Nazi Germany, whom targeted classes of people for extermination based upon race, we target the raghead extremists that choose to strap bombs to themselves or vehicles and get as many innocent people killed as possible. We then target the governments that provide safe harbor for these extremists and target them.

Yes, this will lead to more raghead terrorists joining the fight through brainwashing and these folks will be targeted too until there is nobody left to target or governments willing to offer their lands as a glass parking lot following the carpet bombing (very nice touch, BTW)

You need not target Islam as the radicals will affix their own crosshair on themselves through their violent actions and likewise governments by their inactivity to expunge their lands of terrorists dwelling amongst them.

[Valigator]

My basic philosophy has always been that the countries who are targeting the war, will finally get sick and tired of the war...Iran has always been a strong thought of mine that the younger generation will see thru the clerics they will see thru the restrictions and at some point overthrow the regime, to go towards a more democratic regime....I am about ten years too late, but my hopes and dreams still lay in that direction...

[grayghost]

When we've had enough...enough bombings, beheadings, suicide bombers, kidnappings, murders and a few more major disasters here on our soil, maybe those leaders in charge will look in their pants and find their manhood, grab a hold of them and send in Uncle Sam's big foot and stomp those vermin out of existance. No more mouth, no threat, just the ass kicking those animals deserve. Kill all of them, no matter what sex or age. You want it to stop? Then kill them all or it will never end. Death is the only thing they live for. So help them out. grayghost

[Valigator]

I hate to be the one to break it you, but we are a democratic society, we dont go in with guns blasting and settle this crap overnight, look walk with me here...I am on your side, I also think we need to get mean and tough, but as a democratic union, we cant, thats what gives us our power believe it or not...if we drop down to their level, now here is another walk, we must get down and dirty to do what needs to be done....but it can never be the front page of the New York Times....

[grayghost]

I hear what your saying Val, I do. But war is hell. Sherman did make Georgia howl, and made our Civil War end sooner than later. Scorched Earth policy he called it. Consider this: what if tomorrow, everyone (Christian, Jewish, Catholic , etc.) in American became a Muslim. Would this matter to those who's only dream is to kill people and justify it in the name of religion? I would love to see a world where no one was killing anyone. I didn't mean to insinuate that we go destroy the world. But my point is, when we've had enough bloodshed, we'll fight fire with fire. And that seems to be the only thing these killers understand. I'm frustrated over our men and women dying in the middle east. We aren't going to change these people that are totally committed to cold blooded murder. We let our soldiers get bombed and picked off everyday and keep their hands tied at the same time. We punish our troops for humiliating prisoners? Last I heard we didn't cut off any of their heads. We court martial our soldiers because one of them shot a wounded combatant? Support them, give them the means to fight or bring them home. They didn't get asked if they wanted to go; they were ordered to go and they went. Please don't take this as argumentative. It's just my venting. Good hunting, grayghost

[skeet]

Val,

I do understand how you feel about the US being better than the others that do the terror thing. Here is a FACT of LIFE When fighting a war...the only way to win is to be harder nastier and more vicious than the other side. That is the way we won WW II and that is the only way to win a war. You can't pansy them to their knees. That is kinda what happened in Vietnam and it just didn't work then...and won't work now. Do I like that?? No of course not.... but these people creating terror through the world know that is the only way we can beat them...and they think they can win...because they feel we do NOT have the will to do what is necessary to defeat them. Sorry, but in all actuality...that is the bottom line, as we like to say!! Sadly...they may be right..:rolleyes:

[Valigator]

No argument from me...but I think it was better 50 years ago without instant technology...seems no matter what we do its on the front page the day after, I also dont think thats anyway to win a war..hey do what needs doing...I am ok with that, but someone should put a press ban on this stuff, the public would be happier...

[grayghost]

Absolutely! I'll all for that. Every more our troops make the media wants it on the 6 o'clock news with live action. I say we take their big mouth and camera; replace it with an M-16 and see how it feels to have someone filming you 24/7. The enemy is watching. Good huntin'!

[moneychanger]

my only thoughts are there are alot of good people that have died
and alot of service personnel maimed because of the bickering in washington .