View Full Version : As many guns as you want to do it all!!!
Baylian
09-18-2006, 08:43 PM
I was thinking and why limit yourself to 3 guns. Why not have as many as you heart desires. It's just a wish list anyway for most of us. Pick them so you could hunt anything, anywhere on Earth.
My choices:
small game = CZ453 varmint in .22 LR so there's something left of the rabbit to eat. This CZ looks great, shoots straight, and has a single set trigger.
CXP1 = T/C Encore in .22-250 Rem because it can reach out and touch something. I'd pick the Encore because I can get a muzzle loading 50x209 barrel or a 12 ga. turkey barrel or a ..... etc.
CXP2 = Rem model 7 in 7mm-08 because this sensible light kicking caliber has enough umph to get it done on any deer size animal. The M7 is light weight, handy, and will double as a mountain rifle.
All-arounder = CZ 550 in .270 Win. because you can find .270 anywhere on Earth and it can take CXP2 and CXP3 size game. This CZ has a control feed action and a single set trigger.
CXP3 (N. America) = Weatherby Vanguard MOA in .338 Win. Mag because it's the most popular medium mag. The Vanguard is accurate, heavy enough for the recoil, and affordable.
I obviously don't have much experience in this area but here goes:
CXP3 (Africa) = .375 H&H in a reliable bolt action.
CXP4 = .416 RIgby in a reliable bolt action.
So, there you are. Have fun thinking thinking this one through and good hunting. TJ
Andy L
09-18-2006, 10:36 PM
I have almost all I want, right now.
17Rem, 204, 223AI, 220 Swift, 243s, 25-06AI, 6.5x55, 30-06, 300 Win, 22lrs,
12 gauges, 20 gauges, 16ga, 410, 32 long colt, 9mm, 40, 44spl, 45acps (the s means multiples)
I honestly cant think of anything else I need. However, Im sure I will think of something soon.... :D
I really dont see the need for a big rifle. I have no plans of dangerous game. However, I would like to have a 500SW with a 4in bbl. Thats plenty for dangerous game attacking.....
For now, Im happy...
Andy
Oh, I do want a 17 Mach II in a Marlin 717 Semi Auto.... Forgot that one. ;)
Well TJ, you gotta expand your list -- I didn't see the venerable 30-06 on your list. You can't have a list without one, heck I've got 3 of 'em, Waidmannsheil, Dom.
P.S. My list is too long to type. ;)
Andy L
09-19-2006, 09:08 AM
Baylain,
I was looking at your list. Very nice. One thing though. I just learned this in the last month or so myself, since I bought one for my kid. You got a 7mm-08 and 270 listed. A 6.5x55 will take care of both of those.
I didnt think much about the Swede and was actually going to get him a 7-08, until I was enlightened about it. The bullet selection is awesome. The bullets carry an incredible SD and BC, higher than almost all other calibers alot larger. The factory and SAMMI specs are very low because of all the old mausers floating around, but modern rifles will handle higher pressures, so you can get very good trajectory and speed. And they are accuate as anything out there. They will do anything the other two calibers you got listed will do, and more, with very little recoil.
Just had to point that out. Fine calibers all though.... :cool:
Rocky Raab
09-19-2006, 10:01 AM
Ah, the old "golf club" philosophy, huh? Golfers are limited to 14 clubs in their bag, but 14 different guns would just about cover the global hunting spectrum I'd think. Fun topic.
PJgunner
09-19-2006, 11:51 AM
I have too darn many guns. it's always a hassle deciding what to take for the next deer or elk hunt. Life was a lot simpler when all O owned was a .22 rifle, 30-06 and a 12 gauge shotgun. :rolleyes: Not as much fun, but definitely a lot simpler.
Paul B.
skb2706
09-21-2006, 10:33 AM
There was once a time when I thought I had the three basics covered. How time changes things..........I have selectively filled in all the possible gaps in those original three and am constantly looking for more.
Catfish
09-21-2006, 11:55 AM
Ture hunters, like carpenters, see their gun like tools and want the best tools for the job. Hunters and shooter in the US today are far from true hunters though. To us our guns are more like toys. We don`t hunt to make a liveing, but for enjoyment and the challange. Alot of us eat most of what we kill, but it`s not out of need to survive.
Everyone know that you can never have to many toys.:D
Baylian
09-22-2006, 06:59 PM
Dom - We need to see your list. This is cyberspace so there's penty of room! I didn't pick the .30-06 on purpose. It's so cliche' and everyone seems to have one. It IS the best all arounder but I wanted to be different. The purpose of the all around rifle is to back up the others so you have two rifles on a trip in case you drop one on the scope (DOH!), etc.
Andy L. - I don't reload and very few of the stores here in central Utah carry more than one box (if any) of 6.5x55 Swede. I chose the 7mm-08 because there's a better (not by much) selection of ammo available and it hits the hardest of standard rounds with less that 15 ft-lbs recoil. Maybe the .25-06 would be a good choice but I don't think the Model 7 is chambered for it. Not much .260 around either.
Others - Thanks for the nice replies but we need to see your lists too.
I was thinking, maybe you could split the .22-250's duties between a .223 or .17HMR in a varmint rifle and a .243 in a carry rifle like a A-bolt hunter or a Tikka T-3 lite.
A caliber like the .35 Whelen or the .350 Rem Mag could also do the job for the .338 Mag with less bruising.
Anyway just some more thoughts. I wish I was independently wealthy.
Good Hunting, TJ
Catfish
09-23-2006, 07:36 AM
TJ,
If your wanting something different than everyone else has, and your wanting a gun for each job, you`ve got to start reloading. I`ve got 3 different centerfire rounds I load and shoot in .17 cal. alone. The .17 AH, the .17-223 and the .17 Rem. The .17 Rem. is the only factory .17 cal. centerfire, so I have to form brass for the other 2. I load and shoot 5 different .22 cal. rounds at present. I have 2 - .25 cal. rounds at present, both are wildcats. Without reloading your limited to the small selction of factory ammo, but by reloading you can customize your ammo to your gun. ;)
Classicvette63
09-26-2006, 12:29 PM
.22lr
.218 Bee for short range varmints
.22-250 for long range varmints
6mm for a heavy varmint, light deer gun
.35 Rem for a lightweight deer, bear rifle
.30-06 for anything that lives on the North American continent
12ga pump for all shotgun needs
16ga semi just for having fun with
Want me to get into pistols too?:D
Awright TJ, I got a little time so here we go:
Combination Guns (Drillings):
Blaser BD880: 30-06 / 20ga / 22 Hornet
JP Sauer & Sohn: 8x57 / 16ga / 22 Mag rf
Rifles:
Weatherby Mk V Lazermark 340 WM
Weatherby Vanguard 25-06
Sako 270 Win
Sako 22-250 Rem
Remington 7400 30-06
Remington 700 30-06
Steyr Mannlicher 375 H&H Mag
Winchester 94 30-30
Marlin 1894 30-30
Voere 222 Rem
Anschutz 22 Hornet
Anschutz 22 Mag
Rem 581 22 lr
Browning BL22 22lr
?? Semi-Auto 22lr
Shotguns:
Beretta 682E o/u 12ga
Beretta 686 o/u 12ga
Browning Citori o/u 12ga
Huglu o/u 12ga
Suhl s/s 12ga
Rem 870 12ga
Springfield 12ga
Winchester 12 12ga
Rem 1100 20ga
H&R Single 20ga
H&R Single 12ga
And a few, believe 8 or so, short guns. I notice there's a few missing from my list, so I'm working on it (like a 300 WinMag)
WH Dom. :cool: :cool: :cool:
gd357
09-27-2006, 08:08 AM
Long Guns
.17 HMR - small game, varmints
.22 LRs (bolt, semi-auto) - same
.223 ARs & bolt - same
.22-250 - same
.243 - up to whitetails
25-06 - deer
.270 - deer, black bear, etc
7mm rem mag - deer, bear, elk, moose, etc
30-30 marlin & winchester - brush guns 4 deer, black bear
.308 AR-10 match
30-06 bolt & pump guns - repeat 7mm
.300 win mag - repeat 7mm
8mm RM/325 wsm - everything in north America
.338 wm - repeat 8mm
.35 Whelen - bigger brush gun
.375 H&H - everything everywhere
.416 rem - see 375
.458 win - see 375
45-70 marlin - biggest brush gun
50 BMG (just in case all else fails:D )
.50 beowulff AR
SBEII 12 g
Win pump 12g
16g
20g
.410
Combo Guns
22 LR/.410 Savage model 24
30-30/12g Savage 24
Crossfire 12g/.223
Handguns
22 LRs revolver, semi
.222/.223 contender
.357 mag
.357 max
.40 S&W
10mm
.41 mag
.44 mag
.45 LC
.45 acp
.460 S&W
That's my wish list - for now :D
Baylian
10-01-2006, 12:23 AM
Thanks! Dom and gd357.
I didn't think you could mention shotguns or pistols on the rifles page without invoking some sort of moderator wrath.
As far as pistols go: I'd go with a Colt Python .357 for my revolver. A Glock 23 in .40 S&W for my concealed carry. And a Ruger Single Six with .22 LR and .22 WMR. cylinders to plink and practice with.
As far as shotguns go: I'd get a Mossberg 590 for my home defense gun. A Berrata Extrema II 12 ga. for my duck gun. A Browning Gold Hunter 20 ga. for my dove gun. And I'd get a 12 ga. turkey barrel and a rifled slug barrel (Iowa whitetails) for my Encore.
Dom, classicvette63, Andy L where do you put all those guns?
Waidmannsheil, TJ
Where to put them all -- good question TJ, and one every gun holder is responsible for.
All of mine are locked in weapons safes, 4 each, not just a metal locker but plated steel with thick round bolts that fit into the sides -- and they are heavy.
Which reminds me, I also have a Win 1300 w/rifled barrel, scoped, for whitetail hunting in states that have zones where rifles are not allowed.
denton
10-01-2006, 12:45 PM
I used to want a lot of different calibers, but I've gotten past that. The useful applications of most calibers overlap a lot.
Here's what I've ended up with, and I'm happy with the collection:
handguns--
.41 Mag Ruger Redhawk for lots of fun target shooting, and for hunting if I decide to use it that way. Plenty of power if needed, but very pleasant to shoot with target loads.
9x18 Makarov for plinking and occasional concealed carry. Cheap, well made, same muzzle energy as a .38 Spl.
.22 Ruger Single Six for tin cans and for teaching the grandkids how to shoot.
rifles--
.22/20ga Rossi convertible break action, strictly for teaching the grandkids. The .22 works great. The 20 ga has really nasty recoil, and is effectively useless for the grandkids. The break action keeps the ones that just shovel ammo through the gun to a reasonable rate of use of ammo.
.223 Browning Stainless Stalker for varmints up to coyote size, and for really excellent target shooting. You can go through 100 rounds, and wonder why you didn't bring more.
.243 Howa 1500. I like this better than the 22-250, because its likely to give me longer barrel life. Good varminter, and with Partitions, a good basic deer rifle for the grandkids. This is one gun in the collection that isn't really ideal for anything.
6.5x55 Pac-Nor barrel on an FN action. In a modern action, it does about anything a 25-06 or 6.5-06 will do. Plenty of reach for those distant coyotes, and no questions about its capability on deer. In my case, I went for a heavier barrel, so this one isn't fun to carry over the mountains. Hence, we had to have...
7x57 Zastava, my new main hunting rifle. Lightweight barrel makes it pleasant to carry. With the right bullet, ample medicine for elk, and anything smaller. Mild recoil in spite of the light weight. Seems to be a very "happy combination."
30-06, Remington barrel on a Turkish Mauser action. An outstanding rifle, good for about anything I want to do.
8x57 Yugo. My loaner rifle. It's there in case someone wants to go hunting with me, and doesn't have a suitable rifle. 2.5" five-shot groups at 100, potent enough for elk.
Assorted: Finnish M39, Swedish Milsurp 6.5x55, just because they're classics. Browning 30-06 A Bolt with BOSS, because I was dumb and had no idea what real muzzle blast was like. SKS because everybody needs at least one bullet hose POS for those afternoons at the range where you just want to tear up tin cans.
shotgun--
Rem 870. About the most fun gun I own. Hard to beat an afternoon with my sons/sons-in-law with a couple of gallon jars of shells and three boxes of clays.
Baylian
10-01-2006, 10:01 PM
Dom,
Editorial in the Sunday paper this morning by a couple who lost a son to a nut with a pistol. His girlfriend's stalker killed him and the girl. They're belief was he would be alive if we had gun control. The stalker was a grad student from Germany. They conjectored if he had stayed in Germany he couldn't have got the pistol to commit the crime. So, how do you have all these guns in Germany?
Waidmannsheil, TJ
Yes, TJ, there are good points and bad points from all angles on gun ownership. There's always incidents like you read that make it hard on all gun owners. Too bad the responsible gun owners are put in the same barrel when you mention the word weapons after a crazy shooting incident. And how many criminals are going to register? So you make it hard and a hassle for the law abiding citizen. Without getting too long winded, I think most in the states wouldn't mind registration if they were guaranteed there wouldn't be some law down the road that all of a sudden the rifle they owned for 50 years was now outlawed -- and they knew exactly where to go get it, if it were registered. Plus, I'm a firm believer that in the states they aren't going to stop with registration, they want them all destroyed, no exceptions. They are at step 1, but that is not the intent of Feinstein, Kennedy, etc al, to stop there. My NRA Life Membership helps keep the liberals in line, it's the least I can do to preserve responsible gun ownership for hunters and sport shooters. Whether you agree or not with everything the NRA is doing, does not mean that you shouldn't support them. I think w/o the NRA the states would have lost a lot of rights years ago.
Anyway, to own weapons in Germany you need a reason, i.e., hunter or sport shooter, and you are responsible for the control of them, i.e., under lock & key in a weapons safe when not in use. Is it good? I haven't had any problems, and I can hunt and shoot 365 days a year. Also, not all my weapons are here, I have many in the states, but also in a weapons safe under lock.
I don't want to hi-jack this thread, and it's only my opinion, so I hope I don't set a fire off on this subject, I know it's touchy and means a lot to many Americans -- I'm on your side, Waidmannsheil Dom.
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