Imus

[hnter]

Considering the Imus flap, was he treated fairly or is he the recipient of a vendetta?

[skb2706]

just an observation
but don't black rap music singers regularly slam white people

I must have missed the day Al Sharpton went after them about it.

[fabsroman]

Kenye (sp.) West said that Bush sent the hurricane to New Orleans. Now, that might not be a racist comment, but it does show something that should really be questioned.

As far as rappers are concerned, I don't even want to start on that kind of music. I used to listen to it once in a while, until I actually started listening to the words. That stuff makes me sick, especially now that I am going to be a father.

Just to clarify something, what exactly does "Both Zumbo and he got it." What does that mean. Does it mean they both got the shaft? Does it mean they both got what they deserved?

[BILLY D.]

Being an uneducated boob I took it to mean watch what you say and be careful how and when you say it.

Bill

[Tennessee Elkman]

Fabs,
Here's my take on Rap music. I too listened to it and then really listened to it. I don't particularly like it but I listen to it everyday with my two teenagers when I pick them up from school. (Sports talk in the morning for me, their music in the afternoon for them) I listen because I want to know what they are listening to and how they react to it. I'm a huge music fan of all different types and the music of today is just as lryically challenged as is was in the 60's and 70's. I am raising my kids by allowing them to listen to the music they want to here and teach then what's right and what's wrong with the words and poor english being used in the songs. Kids today will be exposed to the music at school dances, with friends, ipods, etc. just like they are exposed to drinking, drugs, etc. It's up to us as parents to teach them and talk to them about right from wrong. Kind of like handling a firearm...... Hummm funny how things can come full circle.

[8X56MS]

Don Imus has been providing a forum for liberals to spew their garbage for years.
His big mouth got him fired. Its about the money. When the major sponsors for his show on CBS started backing out, CBS no longer needed him.
I am sure he will wind up on Sat radio like Howard Stern.

[jon lynn]

I don't care for shock jocks and the like.............but rap should be a crime, it ain't music.


But what Imus said was wrong for a white man in America today. I work for the DoD, with black Americans and African-Americans. One friend hates the 'African' title, quote from him : "I ain't never been to Africa" And I agree with him, his family has been in America way longer than mine, by about 150 years, maybe more.

The others who are considering them selves African-Americans say the "N-word" to each other regurly, and I have on more than one occasion heard them say "The white boys." Being from Oklahoma if I said "Black boys" I would be in deep kim-chee, and most likely fired. How's that for a sterio type.


As far as Imus is concerned, I use Jim edwards old campagin slogan of two Americas. One is non-caucasion who can pretty much say anything.....it's their constutional right (even if they are ILLEGAL ALIENS)..............then the always wrong, can't say crap with out being labled a klan member or some stuff.

I am truly for equal rights, and we are ALL Americans. I was raised not to see color, and respect other culters. But always being politically correct is getting old. All colors, races and religions SHOULD LIGHTEN UP! Get a bloody grip. Respect is a must, but if YOU can say it, I should be able to, and vice versa.

But it is getting out of hand. If Jessie Jackson said it (it would really be silly...but) would be a snicker in the news, kinda a joke of the day. If Sharpton said it he would be on SNL for the 100th time. But Imus said it so it was wrong. It was nowhere near the Michael Richards racist rant, which was WAY-WAY wrong and over the line.

Right, wrong or indifferent, a white guy said it, so it was wrong.

[wrenchman]

what he said was wrong and hurtful if he would have called sharpton it i wouldnt have a problim becouse he is a nappy headed ho and it would be his and my personal openion.
These are kids going to school and playing a school sport it is totaly wrong

[DogYeller]

Looks like the Russians have it all figured out. And I thought our Lame Stream Media was bad.
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/89728-0/

[Mil Dot]

I've never listened to his program, so I really don't know his line of banter. Apparently, he has been around for 30 or so years. When I heard about this flap an incident that happened awhile back popped into my head ... Howard Cosell (sp). Seems Imus could have learned from the past. IMO the chicken just stuck his neck a little to far out over the choppin' block. Whatever the force behind the hatchet it was moving to fast to be stopped. Sorry Don, media money isn't giving a Mulligan for sloppy mouth control this time. Looks like chicken tonight.

[Classicvette63]

I'm waiting for when an independently wealthy public figure says something that isn't pc and have that person follow up with "It's my First Amendment right to free speech and if you don't like it, go pound sand."

Don't alot of those "shock" shows have a disclaimer that the views expressed are not he views of mngmt, the station etc.? So why is cbs and msnbc all in a tiff? How come when there is something on tv that white folk don't like, were told to change the channel? Guess that don't apply to everyone.

So the girls were upset and traumatized that Imus called them nappy headed 'hoes. If they are that thin skinned, they are going to have a tough time in the real world. The whole thing is a crock of bs.

[fabsroman]

If you watched the game, you would have seen that the Rutger women were a lot rougher looking than the Tennessee women. The Tennessee team had some pretty good looking black women on the team and the Rutger women weren't even close in athletic ability or beauty compared to Tennessee.

[BILLY D.]

Fabs you hit the nail on the head. Image projection. The girls looked exactly what Imus called them.

If ya wanna look like a bum, don't be surprised if people call you a bum.

Of course the girls were merely emulating the studs in the NBA. You know the ones, they look like walking Etch-A -Sketch boards.

Some of my biggest heroes when I was growing were players. They sucked up the bad things in life and went out and played ball. They didn't cry because grandmummy had a heart when they were 7 years old. Everybody nowadays is a victim.

Bill

[fabsroman]

Billy,

If you follow my posts, you know I am completely anti professional sports at this point. I am an avid cyclist and did pretty well in the sport when I was in my teens but quit to go to college. Last year was the biggest doping scandal in the sport, even though people in the sport know it has been rampant for 20 years plus.

Pro football and baseball are terrible too. The NFL players union and the NFL have just come to an agreement to up the random drug testing to 12 players a week, up from 9, during the season out of the 3,000+ NFL players. This, after catching Shawn Merriman on steroids last season. With a 16 week season, they will test all of 192 players which is just over 5% of the players. Honestly, I think it should be much harder. Same goes for baseball. It makes me sick to think that Bonds is going to break the home run record.

[Lilred]

What DO you call black people's hair that's curly?

[BILLY D.]

Originally posted by Lilred
What DO you call black people's hair that's curly?

Brillo Pad? :eek:

Bill

[PJgunner]

Velcro. :D

What does gripe me about the whole Imus thing is he made a stupid comment and got sandbagged for it.
The Rev. "JIZZY" Jackson and the Rev. Al "The Clown" Sharpton don't give a damn about poor black people. They are just the pawns to give them glory, fame and wealth.
I can say the following because I have met the Rev. J. Jackson. Call it a feeling, but I think he is the most evil man I have ever met in my life, and knowing some very bad ass bikers, that's saying something.
What further torques my jaws is if I say the "n" word, then I'm a racist. But, If some black man calls me an ofay honky, that's OK? BS!
Methinks it's time to scuttle all this PC crap. Political correctness is destroying this country through the divisions it causes. Hyphenated named like African-American, ot Italian-American, or Mexican-American or even Native-American are just plain divisive and should not be tolerated. Think, "United we stand. Divided we fall." I am a native American. I was bloody well born here. I do not call my self French-American either. I am an American of French descent. If some PC butt wipe doesn't like, he can throw the first punch and it damn well betetr be a good one cuz then it's my turn. This is one Frog who didn't drop his rifle when the chips were down.
Paul B.:mad:

[fabsroman]

Paul,

I agree completely. I think we are all Americans of some descent. I refer to myself as an Ameriacn of Italian descent. I love my Italian roots, but it is this country that I love. It is nice to visit Italy, but America is my home. Plain and simple.

I also agree with you on Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and the fact that this PC crap really has this nation divided.

[Mil Dot]

It seems to be the same old liberal spiel, some rich white or black politically motivated moron with a microphone wrapping the flag of protection around some poor, ignorant, down trodden, unable to "defend themselves" folks that happen to have a moment in the lime light (media generated). This is just sickening. Those players would have never even given this a second thought if some avid Imus hater with some connections wouldn't have thrown him to the media wolves. In fact they probably didn't even know who Imus was, I mean you're 20 something, in college and an athelte. I don't think the Imus show is exactly on your top 10 watching or listening list. I'd be more PO'd that all these other folks were using me for their own gains after the fact. I mean really what Sharpton and Jackson are saying is that these girls are mentally and physically unable to defend themselves.

If I were Imus, I guess I'd avoid going to the girls' b-ball post game party and repeating his statement amongst the girls and their peers.

If I were Sharpton or Jackson, I guess I'd avoid the same party after treating these athetes like they are unable to defend themselves or I may end up in a pile right next to Imus.

JMHO

[hnter]

I've a naturalized Mexican hand ("worker") here. He calls me the "Gringa", "white boy", "old man" and "boss". I call him the "beaner, "Mexican backhoe", and "Muhado".

When we call each other those names, we are smiling. We respect each other.

The other day A white guy asked me why I wanted a job done a particular way? My beaner hand/friend looked at him and said "Because the old griga sign you check white boy." I love that beaner.

Oh BTW, did anybody know Louis Farican was once a Calipso singer? His stage persona was called "Calipso Louie" :D
Dey-O!

And I'm not sure just exactly what I meant by "got it", it just seemed ta fit. :confused:

[Rapier]

"There is no place for the hyphen in our citizenship.. We are a nation, not a hodgepodge of foreign nationalities. We are a people, and not a polyglot boarding house."

Teddy Roosevelt

[Niteowl]

Proud To Be White
Someone finally said it.
How many are actually paying attention to this?

There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans,
etc.
And then there are just Americans.

You pass me on the street and sneer in my
direction.
You Call me "White boy," "Cracker," "Honkey,"
"Whitey," "Caveman" .. and that's OK.

But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head,
Sand-nigger,
camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ... you call
me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence
against you,
so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to
live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have
Martin Luther
King
Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar
Chavez Day.
You
have Yom Hashoah You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi You have
the NAACP.
You have BET.

If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) ..
we'd be
racists.
If we had a White Pride Day .. you would call us
racists.
If we had White History Month .. we'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites to
"advance" OUR
lives ..
we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black
Chamber of
Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber
of Commerce.
Wonder who pays for that?

If we had a college fund that only gave white
students
scholarships
... you know we'd be racists. There are over 60
openly
proclaimed
Black Colleges in the US , yet if there were
"White colleges" ..
THAT would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you
were marching
for your race and rights. If we marched for our
race and rights,
you would call us racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and
orange, and you're
not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our
white pride
..
you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when
a white
police
officer
shoots a black gang member or beats up a black
drug-dealer
running
from the law and posing a threat to society .. you
call him a
racist.

I am proud.
But, you call me a racist.

Why is it that only whites can be racists?

[Classicvette63]

Niteowl, That pretty much hits the nail on the head.

[Lilred]

Niteowl....
I applaud you.....that was perfect