View Full Version : Gun controll is the answer?
jon lynn
04-17-2007, 02:25 PM
I do feel for the victums and families of the Virgina Tech killings, but I am controlling my self trying to write this out:
I knew it would come, I just knew it. When I was watching SKY news and FOX Int, and CNN Int. THEY ALL babbled about tougher gun controlls.
If the sicko shooter was a foregin student, wouldn't he most likely have not legally been able to obtain firearms!? If my question is answered 'yes' they were illegal, then the 'controll' is once again an answer to the wrong issue.
But as no one has the facts yet, the the anti-gun weenies are already screaming "GUN CONTROLLLLLLLL!"
I don't know the facts yet myself, but I KNEW THEY WOULD JUMP ON THIS.
Gunslingergirl
04-17-2007, 06:27 PM
Gun control is not the answer, but many people don't seem to understand that. A gun is a tool. What matters is the intention of the person holding the gun.
Rather than go into a long discussion here, I'll simply say that I said more about this subject on the blog I write. You can read that here: Guns Aren't the Problem (http://www.git-r-slung.com/blog/index.php?itemid=104)
That should be fixed now.
GSG
LoneWolf
04-17-2007, 07:54 PM
Another board I post on, motorcycle related, is just flaming up on the debate of gun control. I still can't believe the arguments the antis still throw up. To me, its a very easy question to answer...
Your child was there, would you have wanted them to have the opportunity to defend themselves????
Just a very sad day for all those involved in this tragedy, and an even sadder day for our freedoms in this country if the antis ever get there way.
gd357
04-18-2007, 12:04 AM
Image if one of the students who were murdered would have been packing. The story would have had a different ending. Makes you wonder why all the bad stuff happens in places where you're not allowed to carry...:rolleyes:
gd
Classicvette63
04-18-2007, 01:05 AM
How come when some old person mows down a dozen people with their oldsmobuick land yacht no one screams about getting old people off the road? Just a stupid question I guess. The answer is probably the same as why no black people get fired for saying racist stuff.:rolleyes:
I new it was coming as soon as the coverage began. And has any one noticed all the info on the news about gun specs is F'd up? one of the cnn, msnbc, etc. had a guy explaining the rapid reloading process of a glock that was a mirror image of a PPK. and another station mentioned a glock 19 is capable of holding up to 19 rounds of .22 cal ammo. i need to shop where that kid does i would love a plinking glock.
this will be a tough storm for gun owners to ride out.
kt
LoneWolf
04-18-2007, 06:07 PM
Kt, only he we let it.
This also can be a time to actually inform those on the fence, and make them understand what is really going on, or could have possibly been prevented to a lesser extent.
Dan Morris
04-18-2007, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by Gunslingergirl
Gun control is not the answer, but many people don't seem to understand that. A gun is a tool. What matters is the intention of the person holding the gun.
Rather than go into a long discussion here, I'll simply say that I said more about this subject on the blog I write. You can read that here: Guns Aren't the Problem (http://www.git-r-slung.com/blog/index.php?itemid=104)
That should be fixed now.
GSG
This has long been my contention!
Dan
Rocky Raab
04-19-2007, 09:57 AM
If your deepest desire is to disarm the American public, then you'll use ANY excuse to demand more gun laws. That's it pure and simple.
The antis aren't interested in debate, they will not listen to reason, they don't care of their arguments are silly. They just want to ban, confiscate and destroy every gun on the planet. Period.
And they will use EVERY excuse and take every opportunity to get what they want.
Nulle
04-20-2007, 01:25 PM
Every kid on that campus should have had a gun and that nut would have been stopped real fast.
fabsroman
04-20-2007, 02:39 PM
Every kid over 21 should have had a gun. Of course, my father in-law brought up a good point. If every kid on the campus had a gun, there might be a lot more killings that result from arguments that would normally only result in a fist fight. Instead of just drunk driving, we would have to be worried about drunk packing.
Honestly, I still think that the very responsible kids should be allowed to carry on campus if they are of age. Use a GPA cutoff or something else to decide who can and cannot carry.
rickjordan
04-22-2007, 10:30 AM
Now this is just my opinion but one I feel very strongly about! The antigun people we are talking about on here are terrified of guns- they never learned how to use them and couldn't tell the difference between an automatic and a revolver! Most of the people on this board were taught at an early age how to safely use and respect guns! The antigun people never were so they fear guns and don't think anyone should be allowed to carry guns because they don't! It is the same crap that fractures this country over and over again- if I don't do it, no one should! My thoughts on this or simple- if you don't want to own guns- don't! If you don't want to eat meat or hunt- don't! If you don't like a certain show or radio host, turn the channel! Why people have to try and change everyone else just doesn't make any sense to me! It would be like me trying to convince PETA that they have to hunt! It is called CHOICE! That is why our country is considered FREE!
PJgunner
04-22-2007, 07:24 PM
"If the sicko shooter was a foregin student, wouldn't he most likely have not legally been able to obtain firearms!? If my question is answered 'yes' they were illegal, then the 'controll' is once again an answer to the wrong issue."
Well, if I understand it correctly, I remember reading someplace that a foreigner may be allowed to buy and own firearms while living in the U.S. I believe though that they may/must have to get permission through thier embassy. If this is correct, then Cho slipped though the cracks in more ways than one. If he tried to go though the proper procedures, I doubt that he would have been able to buy a gun, as the Korean government does not allow very many of their citizens to own any type of firearm.
He probably just went to the gun shop and showed a driver's license and that was it.
Paul B.
skeeter@ccia.com
04-24-2007, 06:50 PM
as stated by others here......they go to schools and other places with the No Carry law....to gun down people....you never hear of them entering police stations or someplace else where they would be shot....too many rules now....arm anyone that is fit to carry....what a joke for them to go to a school with unarmed kids and shoot em up like some hero....does PMO
fabsroman
04-24-2007, 10:13 PM
That isn't necessarily true. We have had three incidents here where a man went into a police station and tried to shoot up the officers.
One of them did it in DC several years ago. He killed one officer and wounded another before he was killed. Another did it in Fairfax, Virginia. He killed two officers before he was killed. Turns out that he was specifically after one of the LEO's that he killed. Lastly, we had somebody try this in PG County. He wounded one officer before he was killed.
Stories where the shooter is gunned down before he can kill tens of people just do not make it nationwide because they are not that shocking. Plain and simple. Unless it is something really serious, you guys will never hear about the stuff that happens in my area. Likewise about me hearing about what happens in your area.
At the end of the day, these mad people should be killed before they can cause too much harm.
jon lynn
04-25-2007, 03:55 AM
At the end of the day, these mad people should be killed before they can cause too much harm.
EXACTLY!
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