can anyone tell me why Craig is any different than Barney Franks?

[Skinny Shooter]

The GOP no less is pressuring him to quit Congress.
Isn't there a double standard going on here?
Don't we stand by our own till the facts are known?

Did he actually do anything wrong or was it a set-up?

[Rocky Raab]

I have no idea if he did anything wrong.

To the pressures for him to resign, if it were me, I'd stand up in front of the cameras and say:

"I will resign…one hour after Barney Franks, and one hour after William Jeffers, and one hour after Hillary Clinton, and one hour after Ted Kennedy, and one hour after Patrick Leahy ALL resign for their own acts. Not one minute sooner."

[skeet]

Now that we know how you really feel Rocky... I only have one thing to say You, my friend, are RIGHT in bringing up the double standard that is perpetuated in Congress by the Democraps!:confused:

[BILLY D.]

What bothers me is why did it take 2 1/2 months for this to come forward?

Theres something rotten in Denmark and a few other places as far as I'm concerned.

Bill

[Rocky Raab]

My theory on that is two-fold, Billy.

One. Craig thought he could plead guilty to a minor offense, pay his fine and the whole thing would go under the radar. (He was wrong, of course, but we can certainly understand his desire to have it disappear!)

Two. The media actually dug this up back then, but the Demos kept it in their quiver of diversionary tactics until some boil was about to burst out on their own butt. They could then yell and pound the table until their own stink was forgotten. We may never know what that is or was, but I'd lay money it has to do with Hitlery. It fits the pattern.

[BILLY D.]

Rocky

After reading from the bottom back up to the top and back to the bottom again I agree with you thinking on the matter.

Everybody knows about the dirty laundry in Billorys hamper. I think you hit the nail on the head in (P) two. I hope their flanking maneuver comes back and bites them.

Bill

[skeet]

Not even going to go to the Vince Foster thing either.

The question is...How do you take no(0) dollars and invest it for a year and end up with 100,000 dollars. She said she didn't remember that.. but they had the figures and she didn't remember? BULL HOCKEY!! Both she and Bill would LIE when the truth would do. And she doesn't like Jews so she went to a Jewish Neighboorhood to run for Senator...and they voted her in?? Sheesh!!

[BILLY D.]

skeet

The Jews are taught Socialism from the time they travel down the Birth Canal. They are Socialists but not Communists. They also believe in Capitalism. They also tend to be verrrrrry clany. Thats why they are so easy to round up when there is a Progrom. They do take care of themselves and you will be hard pressed to find any on welfare or public assistance programs.

I am a Jew by blood but I am a practicing Roman Catholic. My inner family is evenly split on religion, half are Catholics and half are Jews. Amongst ourselves we never discuss religion. when we were being brought we celebrated the Religious occasions together. We never knew any different. Jews in the U.S. tend to vote heavily Democrat. A-holes.

As a small child I remember my Grandfathers arguing about politics. They would bang on the dining room table with their fists and glasses and plates would fly into the air. They were both adamant about their beliefs. But us kids loved them both. They could be stern but they were gentle. They alwys explained why things were to be done a certain way. Both had very high standards.

I have Brothers and Sisters living in Israel. I figure if thats the life they want who am I to complain already. Also have Nieces and Nephews serving in their military. I am proud of them.

As far as Hildabeast going to a Jewish neighborhood for votes thats a no brainer. They would have voted for her anyway.

Bill

[skeet]

I understand all that about the jews and how they are. Socialists definitely. They would give up all your rights to acquire what they think would be safety...as long as they benefited the most from that safety. The Jews feel they are God's chosen people. Of course, if you read the Bible correctly you'll find out they gave their birthright up. Neither here or there though. I have very little use for any group of people that would gladly give up my God given rights for their own perceived good. Not dissing your family. I have a lot of respect for the fight that the Jews have put up to keep their "homeland"...even if some of the things they have done were counter to the US's concerns and policies. I do truly believe though that the jews in this country as a people would sell the US down the river as long as it benefitted them. I also believe that Bill and Hilary have done that and she will continue to do it while she holds public office. She would even be a corrupt dogcatcher if she held that office.:rolleyes:

[BILLY D.]

skeet

Well I feel the same as you, thats why I still live here and am a Catholic republican. Ain't no way in tarnation I would live the way that part of my family lives.

Bill

[skeeter@ccia.com]

Hey Rocky.....why don't you e-mail his website and pass that on to him.....maybe he can say it at his next interview.....good idea.

[Rocky Raab]

I treid to do just that. But either his email is shut down, or it is filtered to not accept messages from non-Idahoans.

[Skinny Shooter]

I was able to send an email through his site: http://craig.senate.gov/webform.cfm

Skeet, when did the Jews give up their birthright.

[Tater]

Two. The media actually dug this up back then, but the Demos kept it in their quiver of diversionary tactics until some boil was about to burst out on their own butt. They could then yell and pound the table until their own stink was forgotten. We may never know what that is or was, but I'd lay money it has to do with Hitlery. It fits the pattern.

I was thinking the same thing. Living in Idaho this story broke big earlier this week. My first thought was "If this happened in June and it's such a big deal, why are we just now hearing about it?"

[Rocky Raab]

Tater, as a serviceman in Idaho, you may cut and paste my suggested comment to the Senator, if you'd like. You'd get double the weight of opinion compared to me.

Edit to add: I DID get through finally. But any or all of you are welcome to use or paraphrase my thoughts.

[skeet]

By birthright I mean as God's chosen people. That actually happened after the Jews rejected Christ and had him killed. In fact I think it says somewhere in the bible about the stiff necked heirarchy rejecting the truth of Christ. The birthright of being God's chosen people was taken from them after the death of Christ. Before that point the Jews were the ones that benefitted from God's word and from the teachings of Christ. It was foretold that a saviour would come to God's people. After Christ's death the lessons and teachings of Christ were spread among all people who would listen and believe. It wasn't Christianity before Christ's death...it was an extension of the Jewish teachings and religion.. I guess what I am trying to say is that prior to his death the word of God and Christ were all a Jewish thing. Of course anyone was welcome to believe..but if they were converted, it was to Judaism not Christianity. Christianity actually started after the death of Christ When the word was preached to all who would listen So as to a date approximately 33-35 CE or AD

[Skinny Shooter]

I had no intention to side-track this thread into religion but... :)

Thanks skeet. I'm not trying to argue but this is my take on things. :)
I was under the impression that not all Jews rejected him so the birthright wouldn't have been given up by all. As to it being taken from them, am also under the impression there is a remnant of God's people still left. Christ first came to save the Jews that were to be called to him and then the Gentiles. Just as he taught the Samaritan woman at the well, there was room for Gentiles in his message while he was alive. But he did want the Jews to hear the Word first before spreading it to non-Jews.
I had not heard it put that way that Christ made converts to Judaism. Can you tell me where I might find info on that part?
I was taught that the old ways or law (old promise) was to be bypassed by the "new promise".
He scorned what Judaism had been turned into by the Sanhedrin, Pharisees, etc. who were followers of the law.
The term Christian took off after Christ's death and was given by the Greeks or Romans.
I will go out on a limb and say his followers were just that when Christ started his ministry on earth. Not just after his death.
If you need to, feel free to email or PM. I know that religion has the potential to be inflammatory as a topic and is just before politics but after Liberals on the temperature scale. :D

[BILLY D.]

Me and my big mouth.

Bill

[skeet]

Me too. I be shuttin up!

[Skinny Shooter]

Naw, you two guys are doing just fine. :)

[8X56MS]

why different? A couple of things come to mind

GOP does not have a dedicated attack and defend department. When a DhimiCrat gets into trouble, the party defends him. If a GOP gets into trouble, its most likely that the info was searched for, and distributed by the Liberal attack machine.

Funny, that these sorts of things alway come out when a prominent DhimmiCrat is in trouble. This time it is Hillary with her illegal campaign contributions.
Boy, that issues went on the back burner quickly, didn't it?

[BILLY D.]

There was a subliminal mention of Hilliays campaign contributions from China on the news and how quickly she gave the money to charities, which will probably donate right back to her.

What a bunch of BS. Of course she'll forget where it came from. Or the paper trail will come up missing. She is Leona Helmsley re-incarnated. The "little people" can't do what I can get by with.

Bill

[jl1966]

Here is a point I have not seen expressed thus far in this discussion. Sen. Craig is an avowed opponent of gay rights, yet pled guilty to lewd behavior in a public mens room, which in my understanding of the justice system means you are guilty. The fact that a man who rails against a certain behavior in public, then does that same thing in private, that troubles me. Just like Rosie O'Donnell having armed security but no other people have a right to protect themselves. You may not like Bill Clinton, but he sure is not gay.

[rattus58]

I've not read all of this thread but Republicans seem to eat their own when they get into trouble... which I happen to agree with. A bad republican is a cancer on the party.. and true, we don't have a media bulwark like the Demoncrats do...

Aloha... :cool: