What will you do when lead is banned?

[rattus58]

California... New York... where else will they try it. Now I can see the opportunity possibly with a patched roundball and a plated lead bullet, but you're not likely able to be casting your own. Conical shooters will now be shooting powerbelts and sabots. Are you ready to give up your lead?

Is there some other way to coat a lead bullet that would "protect" the environment?

Aloha... :cool:

[Dom]

Rattus, not funny, don't laugh :eek: but the Europeans are already working on this very subject for rifle bullets, and have already developed and marketed bullets that are lead free. And more and more shotgun ranges going to Steel, you already know the waterfowl scene. Muzzleloaders will follow suit at 'some' point in time . . . Waidmannsheil, Dom.

P.S. When are they going to make wheel weights lead free?

[Lilred]

but you're not likely able to be casting your own

Oh yeah...if that ever comes to my state, I'll be castin my own fer a very very long time...lol
Scrap lead is possible to find...but most folks are like me....they hold on to it for castin. Hey, you dont never know what's gonna happen these days...
:rolleyes:

[Adam Helmer]

Dom,

I understand the US Military has gone to a lead-free round for small arms ammunition. The enviornmentalists are always pushing for legislation or court decisions to make us safer. I have no doubt we will see lead banned in our lifetimes.

Adam

[Dom]

Yes Adam, I have to agree with you that we'll see it in the coming years. RWS is a respected firm over here, you can brush up on your German, basically it's one of their lead-free bullets (they have two that I know of) and the info on it, Dom.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8df02b3127cceb4bbc6b7092e00000026100AcNWbJu1bt2JA

[Adam Helmer]

Dom,

Danke vielmals, mein Freund!

Adam

[rattus58]

Sooner than I expected even..

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=3362

[Adam Helmer]

rattus58,

Interesting link; thanks for sharing it with us.

A few years ago New Hampshire banned all lead fishing sinkers in the state. I see a lead ban for ammunition within the next few years. I am glad I have a farm and a stockpile of lead.

Adam

[rattus58]

And running water does not leach or reduce the weight of lead... isnt that interesting too....

Aloha... :cool:

[Valigator]

found this on Florida,

The Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) is authorized to file a civil suit against any person who caused a discharge of pollutants or hazardous substances, or who owned or operated a facility at which the discharge occurred. F.S §376.308(1). Individuals who have suffered damages resulting from a discharge or condition of pollution are also covered by these statutes. F.S §376.313(3). In Aramark Uniform and Career Apparel v. Easton, 894 So. 2d 20 (Fla. 2004), the Florida Supreme Court held that F.S. §376.313(3) creates a private cause of action imposing strict liability for damages against an adjoining landowner without proof that the defendant actually caused the pollution. In addition, the court held that the defendant is limited to the statutory defenses found in F.S. §376.308.5

Under the statutory and judicial authority set forth above, shooting ranges in Florida are potentially liable to the State of Florida and third parties for causing any pollution or discharging pollutants or hazardous substances into the environment. In response to reports of violations, in recent years, the FDEP stepped up its investigation and enforcement of these laws at several shooting ranges in Florida.6 In response to the increased enforcement by the FDEP, gun clubs in Florida, many of them allied with the NRA and NSSF, counterattacked by introducing legislation in 2004 intended to prohibit state enforcement of these environmental laws at shooting ranges and imposing severe criminal penalties on any governmental officials who targeted shooting ranges for enforcement.7 After much debate, the legislature enacted F.S. §790.333, relating to “Sports Shooting and Training Range Protection, Liability, and Penalties.” The statute generally directs that sports shooting range owners, operators, tenants, or occupants implement site-specific appropriate environmental management practices, utilizing as guidance the FDEP’s BMP Manual.