New Shotguns Aquired This Year

[popplecop]

In Jan. I bought a pair of Bernadelli SxSs: a Gamecock Deluxe in 12 ga and a San Uberto in 20 ga. Then I picked up an Ithaca NID in 16 ga and a Ruger Red Label 28 ga. Received a Rem. 11-87 Sportsman for being a life member of Wis. Watetfowlers Assoc. Then I won a Bennelli Super Nova on a raffle. Gave that one to my son. Think that's enough for this year, am looking for a SxS in 28 ga. with 30" barrels though.

[fabsroman]

And you are probably sitting there saying "What the heck is all this talk about a recession". LOL The only gun stuff I bought so far this year is a stripped AR-10 lower and a stripped AR-15 lower. I'm hoping to get them built up by the end of the year.

[popplecop]

Fabs, I did take a 2.5% cut in my state pension, and no raise comeing up in SS, but usually have rainy day funds stashed for these type of emergencies. Besides told my kids not to worry about inheritence, Dad's having to much enjoyment spending it.

[Mr. 16 gauge]

No 'new' guns this year.....daughter is heading off to college!:)
However, my latest acquisition was a Remington 1100 that a bought a few years back....it was 'pre-owned', but it was in excellent shape; just a few nicks in the stock.
Took it duck hunting last fall and bagged 4 mallards and a black duck using some bismuth handloads....great handling gun. Bought a 26" barrel with an I.C. choke for close upland work. I plan on taking it to the pheasant preserve this fall (as well as duck hunting) and hopefully up to the U.P. next fall for some grouse & woodcock action.

[popplecop]

Sounds like a good plan, I take it the 1100 is a 16 ga, right? If I hunt ducks with a 16 I have an E. German SxS marked SUHL. Chokes have been opened to Lt. M. and Imp. M roughly.Shoot steel and KentMatrix both in it. The SxS was built in the same factory that they built tanks by the way it is constructed. Has to be the ugliest SxS I own, but it serves a purpose.

[buckhunter]

I have a little extra money this year that my other half doesn't know about. None of this is based on need its just a want. Would like a new Matthews Bow, or a Para 1911 or a dedicated slug gun. Or maybe a new AR. Decisions Decisions Decisions. Then maybe a bow hunt in Iowa. Or a whitetail hunt in Kansas. Decisions.

[GoodOlBoy]

dedicated slug gun can be achieved with a H&R single shot slug gun (yes they have a rifled barrel slug gun!) Below are two examples of the four they offer.

GoodOlBoy

[Mr. 16 gauge]

I take it the 1100 is a 16 ga, right?

Sorry Popplecop....it's a 12 gauge. I've been looking for an older 1100 in 16 gauge for a while; one built on a 16 gauge frame. Unfortunatley, the only ones I've come across have been built on 12 gauge frames.
Here is a pic of my 16 gauge duck gun.....it's a Remington model 11 (looks like a Browning A5), and I have used both bismuth handloads and TM with great success with it. It was the first 16 gauge that I owned.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/16gauge/16gaugeducks.jpg

[dovehunter]

No 'new' guns this year.....daughter is heading off to college!:)
However, my latest acquisition was a Remington 1100 that a bought a few years back....it was 'pre-owned', but it was in excellent shape; just a few nicks in the stock.
Took it duck hunting last fall and bagged 4 mallards and a black duck using some bismuth handloads....great handling gun. Bought a 26" barrel with an I.C. choke for close upland work. I plan on taking it to the pheasant preserve this fall (as well as duck hunting) and hopefully up to the U.P. next fall for some grouse & woodcock action.

I think the Rem. model 1100 is the benchmark for autoloading shotguns. It is certainly the best and most dependable autoloader I have ever had. About 20 yrs. ago I got tired of my A-5 jammamatic being a single shot and traded it in on the Rem. - one of the best trades I ever made.

[popplecop]

16 Gauge, All 1100 Rem. are built on 12 ga. frames. Last ones made on 16 ga. frames by Rem. were 11-48s and the 3 shot version 48 Sportsman. These are fine shotguns if you can fimd them at a decent price.

[popplecop]

Fabs, Won another one last night at a Wis. Waterfowlers Banquet. This time a Mossberg Silver Reserve 20 ga. O/U. Promptly gave it to my grandson, his birthdays in Nov. I do have a weaknest for 16 ga. shotguns, as I had given my daughter 2 Rem 31s I no longer owned a pump shotgun. My first person shotgun was a Rem 870 12 ga with the usual 28" full choked barell. It was a 1952 model. Shotguns with any choke other than full were rare in my area, so this was my duck, goose and grouse gun. Bow I found another 52 Rem 870 in 16 ga. and it is a Skeet Model, should be here next week.

[Dutchman01]

I bought a 23 year old like new saur and sohn drilling. Does that count?


http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun_inventory/images/lehi/miscellaneous/1448655_jpsur3000d12_leh_5l.jpg

[Dutchman01]

I think the Rem. model 1100 is the benchmark for autoloading shotguns. It is certainly the best and most dependable autoloader I have ever had. About 20 yrs. ago I got tired of my A-5 jammamatic being a single shot and traded it in on the Rem. - one of the best trades I ever made.


so, the brownings jam?

[skeet]

[QUOTE=Mr. 16 gauge;331775]Sorry Popplecop....it's a 12 gauge. I've been looking for an older 1100 in 16 gauge for a while; one built on a 16 gauge frame. Unfortunatley, the only ones I've come across have been built on 12 gauge frames.


If you are looking for an older 1100 in 16 ga the only frame size they made was a 12 ga..all of the 1100's were built on the 12 ga frame until the early 70's...even the 20 ga. I am always looking for a standard size 1100 20 ga gun. Especially vent rib ones. The rarest 1100 is a standard frame left hand 20 ga deer gun with rifle sights. They didn't make a dedicated smaller frame 1100 in 16 till the late 90's or so...whenever they made the reruns of the 16...and they were actually built on the LT frame I think and they all had screw in Rem Chokes..possibly made by Briley.

[M.T. Pockets]

I haven't gotten anything yet, but my friend with a FFL sent a note yesterday that he took in a Browning Gold 20 3" 20 guage in a trade and it's new in the box, new gun for a trade in price This is just what I was in the market for to get the wife for our anniversary in two weeks ! Really, she asked for a shotgun and here's my chance. Win-win-win situation here.

[dovehunter]

so, the brownings jam?

The two A-5s that I had - a 12 ga. Magnum and a 20 ga. Lightweight - were both chronic jammers. I had both of the them to different gunsmiths on several occasions, all to no avail. They were both beautiful guns but, at the end of the day, pretty is as pretty does. My Remington 1100, to the best of my recollection, has yet to jam.

[skeet]

You just reminded me that yep I have one of these too. It's in the box in a Cedar Chest in my wifes sewing room. Bought it quite a few years ago for my father in law. He couldn't shoot the 12 ga cause of all the coumadin(blood thinner) he was taking. Bruised him up pretty bad. Took him duck and goose hunting few times and it killed ducks and geese with bismuth pretty well. Going to go to my grandson later this year. Not a great fan of Brownings but that gun always worked.. As far as Browning Auto 5s..If they are a chronic jammer it is usually a pretty easy fix. Sometimes though it IS the shooter. Sometimes if shooting reloads it could be the ammo. And as an owner of 1100/11-87s of more years than I like to admit, if your 1100 hasn't jammed on you yet..You've been missing something in life. Keep shooting it especially in cooolllldddd weather. It will hang up. Love those guns. And I do know how to make 'em fly. Have 2 sets of D grade guns(12 20 28 410) and 8 or 10 others. Broken many a hundred straight at skeet...and a few 100s in Trap. Just bought a 20 ga 1100 G3 when Cabela's opened in Billings. Darn things got really expensive(1300 bucks) over the years. But I got it new for under 500 bucks. Going to shoot it at pheasants and maybe quackers this year. Darn thing came with a really nice hard luggage type case. You wouldn't think there is a gun in it till you open it.

[popplecop]

Dutchman01, Beautiful drilling, what gauge and caliber?

[Dutchman01]

Dutchman01, Beautiful drilling, what gauge and caliber?

Thanks, 12 ga and 30-06.

[dovehunter]

You just reminded me that yep I have one of these too. It's in the box in a Cedar Chest in my wifes sewing room. Bought it quite a few years ago for my father in law. He couldn't shoot the 12 ga cause of all the coumadin(blood thinner) he was taking. Bruised him up pretty bad. Took him duck and goose hunting few times and it killed ducks and geese with bismuth pretty well. Going to go to my grandson later this year. Not a great fan of Brownings but that gun always worked.. As far as Browning Auto 5s..If they are a chronic jammer it is usually a pretty easy fix. Sometimes though it IS the shooter. Sometimes if shooting reloads it could be the ammo. And as an owner of 1100/11-87s of more years than I like to admit, if your 1100 hasn't jammed on you yet..You've been missing something in life. Keep shooting it especially in cooolllldddd weather. It will hang up. Love those guns. And I do know how to make 'em fly. Have 2 sets of D grade guns(12 20 28 410) and 8 or 10 others. Broken many a hundred straight at skeet...and a few 100s in Trap. Just bought a 20 ga 1100 G3 when Cabela's opened in Billings. Darn things got really expensive(1300 bucks) over the years. But I got it new for under 500 bucks. Going to shoot it at pheasants and maybe quackers this year. Darn thing came with a really nice hard luggage type case. You wouldn't think there is a gun in it till you open it.

Regarding the A-5s it wasn't the shooter as I did not reload at that time and shot only factory shells. With all due respect I took both those guns to gunsmiths that probably know more about it than you and none of them could correct the problem.

Regarding my 1100 I have shot hundreds of cheap dove loads and reloads throuh mine using one of the 2-3/4" barrels and I still don't recall it ever jamming. I do not watefowl hunt so I will have to admit that it has not been subjected to to salt spray, etc. but then I didn't do it with the Brownings either.

[skeet]

[QUOTE=dovehunter;332126]Regarding the A-5s it wasn't the shooter as I did not reload at that time and shot only factory shells. With all due respect I took both those guns to gunsmiths that probably know more about it than you and none of them could correct the problem.

With all due respect.to you..But sometimes you open mouth and insert foot. Fixing guns was one of the ways I made my living. And Auto 5's were one of the guns I had to deal with most of the time. I lived in a waterfowl hunting area(Maryland goose hunting)..Some salt spray etc..but that isn't what made them or 1100s foul up. I could and did make A-5s and Rem 11's work. Had to. I made money with mine. I shot more than a 1/4 million shells through a few. That is more dealing with A5s than the average gunsmith. I also cleaned guns and I always charged more for A5s than others. Compared to say an 1100 it was a real PITA to strip down all the way, clean and reassemble. The easiest was the ol 870 pumps..

1100s are very forgiving about how a shooter holds 'em. A-5s are not. A5s are very forgiving with the ammo used as long as the recoil rings are correct. You can't limp wrist 'em like some do semi auto handguns. I shot with an old All American team skeet shooter who used 1100's. He never put the gun to his shoulder and was a spot shooter. Was shooting with him on his 81st birthday when he ran another 100. He at one time used 11-48s and told me he couldn't shoot like that with them.. course they were nothing but a modernized A5 for all intents and purposes.

[popplecop]

Skeeter, I agree A5s and Rem 11s are a bear to take down and clean, most users have never torn one down for a thurogh cleaning. Rem. 1100s and 11-87s are a snap to do.

[skeet]

I have to agree with ya about that drilling. It's sure a purty one. I had 2 or 3 over the years. Also had a vierling. However it's spelled. But it was a 16x16x 30-30 x 22 Hornet if I don't disremember. Just too much stuff to remember to shoot 'em far as I'm concerned. Only had one drilling that was a 12 ga but had a wild 8 x 51 with a 318 bore. Couldn't find bullets for it. Had to make my own

One of the hardest guns to take down to clean was one of the first gas guns made..High Standard made a gas operated auto loader that was a bear to clean. Mainly cause it was so hard to figure out how to start. The bbl was not removeable. I still have one here. Guy gave it to me cause he couldn't keep it running and owed me money...so I acquired it I guess.. It actually works just fine...sometimes. But it's a 3 inch gun and I hardly ever use it. Last I shot it was at a couple of geese 2 yrs ago. Kilt 'em but they were kinda right in the decoys. Geese round where I live ain't shot at too much. Never fly out of shotgun range generally. They really ain't as edjumacated as the geese back there in Md ;):D

Thinkin about that 4 bbl gun..The last wasn't a Hornet. It was a 22 WCF. Like a Hornet but not as fast.

[Dutchman01]

I have to agree with ya about that drilling. It's sure a purty one. I had 2 or 3 over the years. Also had a vierling. However it's spelled. But it was a 16x16x 30-30 x 22 Hornet if I don't disremember. Just too much stuff to remember to shoot 'em far as I'm concerned. Only had one drilling that was a 12 ga but had a wild 8 x 51 with a 318 bore. Couldn't find bullets for it. Had to make my own

One of the hardest guns to take down to clean was one of the first gas guns made..High Standard made a gas operated auto loader that was a bear to clean. Mainly cause it was so hard to figure out how to start. The bbl was not removeable. I still have one here. Guy gave it to me cause he couldn't keep it running and owed me money...so I acquired it I guess.. It actually works just fine...sometimes. But it's a 3 inch gun and I hardly ever use it. Last I shot it was at a couple of geese 2 yrs ago. Kilt 'em but they were kinda right in the decoys. Geese round where I live ain't shot at too much. Never fly out of shotgun range generally. They really ain't as edjumacated as the geese back there in Md ;):D

Thinkin about that 4 bbl gun..The last wasn't a Hornet. It was a 22 WCF. Like a Hornet but not as fast.

I had only seen one drilling in my life before I bought mine. I was 10 years old and thought that was the cat's meow. When my fellow citizens elected Obama I saw what was happening with ars and aks. I thought that, maybe, the price on other guns might just drop some. I had been watching the drillings online and waiting for something I could afford and for ga and calibers I liked. Sure enough I found what I was looking for and didn't pay too much for it. I'm guessing this was somebody's 23 year old safe queen because it certainly hasn't been used.

I still had to sell all my guns but my browning hipower tho. I don't think I'll miss em too much except maybe my winchester carbine but I really like this drilling. A german on another forum told me the saur and sohn drilling was; solid, dependable, sensible, and completely boring. I agree with most of what he said. If I had my hands on a vierling I don't know I'd ever sell it. :D

[M.T. Pockets]

Well I ended up getting that Browning Gold 3" 20 guage for my wife. A little anniversary present.

When my buddy brought it out he also brought out a Beretta Extrema II in 3.5 in 12 guage, camo synthetic. He bought a few of them for $1,000 each told me I could have one for cost. I didn't need one, but my 15 year old son was getting tired of using my hand me down old BPS so he cashed in some lawn mowing money he'd saved up and bought one. He loves it.

[gold40]

I bought a lovely little Smith & Wesson Elite SxS 20 gauge last month. Sweet little gun, and mine has a straight (english) stock, 28 barrels, choke tubes, and double triggers. CDNN had a big sale on them at HALF of the list price.

GOLD40

[popplecop]

gold40, sounds like a great deal, let us know how it shoots.

[gold40]

The S&W Elite is very well made, and both the wood and metal are finished to an extent you would expect on a much more expensive firearm. I'm very pleased with it. Besides being lovely, it balance well.

It shoots fine -- better than my meager skills warrant.

Over many years I have learned -- at some expense -- that I shoot best with heavier shotguns, preferably with 30" or 32" barrels. On Sporting Cays, I score highest when shooting my 32" Citori. The extra weight and longer barrels help to keep me from stopping my swing too soon.

But the lighter weight SxS's are more fun to hunt with, and remain my favorites for upland game. This fall, the S&W will be used on quail and pheasant. I'm sure it will do the job.