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MtnMike2
02-02-2011, 04:33 PM
http://http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704124504576118550237336920.html

This article seems to lack specs.
What do you think?

Mike

Skinny Shooter
02-03-2011, 06:35 AM
The link didn't work for me.
Is this the article?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704124504576118550237336920.html?KEYWORDS=new+army+rifle

Rapier
02-03-2011, 03:49 PM
It is my understanding that AFSOC has decided to buy the SCAR. In the internet data they are shown to have only purchased the 7.62 H model but I understand they have also bought the L model as well, for their special ops folks.

I have handled the H and L versions of the SCAR and they are interesting. But the amazing thing about the SCAR is its apparent ability to out shoot the M-4 in a real fast acquisition contest, as many as three shots to one on a carry and shoot, shoot out. For what ever reason they are very fast on target. I have had two spl ops folks tell me that is a very real characteristic of the SCAR.

The Spl Ops folks are in many move and shoot fast situations, so the SCAR makes sense.
Ed

MtnMike2
02-03-2011, 05:21 PM
SS - that's the one. Sorry, I might be insert-link challenged.

Interesting what Rapier is saying. Seems to me that acquisition would be a matter of optics and quicker handling weapon. M4 w/ good optics is hard to beat. Larger caliber seems to me would make it a better battle rifle but didn't expect faster acquisition...

Mike

Rapier
02-03-2011, 06:53 PM
Mike,
That was why I mentioned what I was told about CQB and CQC situations. We at times carried Car-15s in Vietnam and they were very fast, I would think very much like an M-4 but I am told the same story by two folks, that the SCAR is a two to three shot to one in CQC or CQB wnen compared to the M-4 on a first shot basis. Oddly enough the guys did not know why either, just that after timing they were that much faster, their time VS their time. Believe me, I asked why.

I did not mention the tinker toy aspect of the gun, but it looks like a "make what you want" kind of battle rifle, assault rifle, machinegun, subgun, grenade launcher, SAW, etc, etc. It sorta looks like if you had a gun and a footlocker full of parts you could almost make an airplane out of it.;)
Ed

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=scar+rifle&cp=7&wrapid=tljp1296776581093010&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=jT1LTYC4I8P6lwe5ouk_&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CC4QsAQwAA&biw=1027&bih=628

MtnMike2
02-04-2011, 01:35 PM
Thanks Ed. Good link - good post!

Mike

Adam Helmer
02-04-2011, 04:00 PM
Guys,

I checked out the links, but did not see any specs on a New Army Rifle. I suppose I am "link challenged." WHAT caliber is the XM-25? If it is .308, then I say it took the "Head Shed" long enough to come to its understanding! LOL.

Adam