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GoodOlBoy
07-11-2011, 03:09 PM
I asked a caliber question in traditional, but I can't help but notice used tc pro hunters on gun broker for a lot less cash than a traditional rifle. What is every bodies opinion on them? Cant help but think about the fact I can buy other rifle barrels for them later on...

GoodOlBoy

skeet
07-11-2011, 08:42 PM
The encore is a great platform for an everything gun.. I do have one in 30-06 with a 25-06 and 7mm mag bbl. I do not need a ML bbl for it though. A friend back east just bought one for his 9 yr old son in 50 cal with a 7mm mag bbl. I am trading the 25-06 to him for the 7mm...mainly for the scope. he paid 500 for the whole setup

buckhunter
07-12-2011, 08:55 AM
The TC seems to be a pretty good rifle. And yes the interchangable barrel is a big plus for someone who can't afford a lot of different rifles/shotguns or ML. Having had a number of bad experiences with the folks at TC I would not buy one, not that they are bad just because they pissed me off.

In Mass during the ML season we cannot use breakopen ML however that is about to change. Would I trade in my old CVA? Y es but not for a TC. I will seek others when the time comes. Another happy camper.

Adam Helmer
07-12-2011, 02:55 PM
GOB,

The modern inlines, break open or bolt action, are inexpensive compared to Traditional muzzleloaders. I saw bolt action CVAs in .45 and .50 caliber for under $200 recently at the local feed store. I looked the rifles over and they seemed ok for the purpose of hunting. They used the #209 Shotgun primer and would consume big powder charges.

These guns are modern-looking and do extend the hunting season for meat hunters, who are accostomed to modern rifles. I prefer flintlock and caplocks for my muzzleloader hunting.

Adam

skeet
07-12-2011, 04:26 PM
To be really honest the modern inlines such as the TC and other well made guns are much more expensive than the better traditional muzzleloaders. many of the Encore muzleloaders will cost considerably more than a thousand dollars The Knights, Austin & Halleck and the White muzzleloaders are up there too..Think the White is now extinct. The Savage smokeless muzzleloader is also up in the 650-900 dollar range. The Savage is the only one of todays muzzleloaders..inline and traditional.. that has been proof tested. I prefer my Savage inline mainly because I don't have to clean it evey time I shoot it..it is much cheaper to shoot, more reliable, far better for longer ranges out here and more accurate by far than most any muzzleloader I have ever shot. Most people who shoot inlines are just everyday hunters who want to get out in any extra seasons they can participate in...not just meat hunters as Adam somewhat derogatorily calls 'em. All people that hunt and take an animal are meat hunters...even Adam. That being said I do like the old caplocks especially shooting the roundball. Always worked well and will take a deer for certain. but the ranges are surely not long for most muzzleloading... and out here in Wyoming..ranges can be long at times. Deer at the house will be just fine for my ol roundball shooter though. Using my camoflage pillow, bathrobe and coffee cup. LOL. Lots of whitetails round here. They eat my garden all summer so i think it should be just fine to have one a them for din din myself

Adam Helmer
07-13-2011, 02:39 PM
skeet,

The Inlines were Connecticut Valley Arms Ultra Mag and Firebolt bolt actions and were under $200 each. The Traditional Hawken Flintlocks and Caplocks are over $650 new at the nearby gun shop. The latest Cabela's Catalog arrived yesterday and pages 664 thru 671 shows lots of Inlines running from $179.99 to $799.99. If you are paying a grand, or better, try Cabelas.

I say, "meat hunters" because they are folks who grab an Inline to hunt a few weeks more each year. They are not purists who monkey about with a flinter or caplock Hawken. They just want a modern-looking arm that requires little skill to employ. I am glad PA still has the Traditional Flintlock deer season after Christmas into mid-January. The inline hunters I know gripe, but will not try to master a flintlock for that three-week flintlock season. Thus, I deem them meat hunters. I dress the part of a French & Indian War Couer des Bois flinter and only shoot does that have already been greviously wounded like my last doe that has her left hind leg shot off. Yep, I am a meat hunter and a Traditional hunter.

Adam

Larryjk
07-13-2011, 03:36 PM
The TC Encore ML rifle is very reliable and accurate. I would recommend a Leupold Ultimate Slam scope to get the very best of accuracy. Honest called shots to 300 yards.
The Knight KP1 was also a very comparable rifle if they are back in production. My son has the Knight and my son-in-law the TC. They shoot side by side.

Larryjk
07-13-2011, 03:39 PM
buckhunter, What did the people at TC do to incur your rath? I have always found them to be very friendly and helpful. Send me a PM if you like. [I don't work for them].