using gun bluing on brass (w/pics)

[Rancid Crabtree]

Yes I know there are products dedicated to blackening brass parts but I had none on hand but I do have an awful lot of gun bluing chems on hand so I thought I would give it a go. None of the bluing companies will tell you the exact recipe and proportions of chems used and because all of them said their products would only work on steel I tried a little test on other metals. They were correct to a point. I was however impressed with their ability to blacken brass. (some more than others) Restoring some really old guns requires brass blackeing and while there are products one can buy to do the task, after seeing how well some of the gun blues worked on brass I don’t feel the need to buy a separate product for the job. Clearly these products all have a different recipe and varying amounts of sulfides and acids and oxides as they all performed diffeently on steel and brass.

Here is the line up of bluing agents I have on hand including aluminum black

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I used a piece of brass bar stock I had in the shop that I use in knife making projects. I cleaned and buffed the test area and then applied all 7 products. Some were quite harsh to the brass and some not so much. Some really darkened the brass and some not so much but rest assured all of them did blacken brass.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/212007154/brassblue6_zpsc392aa5d.jpg

Then I used steel wool to abrade off the blackening. It took some effort but all gave up the coloring but then brass is a very soft metal and steel wool is much harder so it was no surprise. I was pretty aggressive in abrading the brass and was impressed with how well they held up considering they are not meant as brass blackening products. Then I went a little nuts since I was looking for more brass to sample. These were done with Oxpho-blue as I found it the most effective on brass (the most black). The G96 was the most caustic and damaging to the finish of Brass. It deeply etched/pitted/damaged the surface of the sample bar.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/212007154/brassblue2_zps4ff4f20f.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c239/212007154/brassblue_zps127a7426.jpg

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If you find yourself in need of blackeing brass and dont have any brass black on hand, you can substitute gun bluing.

[skeet]

Rancid(good grief I like that name) from what I can get as to some instant gun blues..many have Selenium dioxide as an ingredient and aslo some have a copper oxide in the mix. The one prepares the metal the other coats the metal and another component blackens the copper deposit. I surely do like your posts. I used Oxpho on a T-C Hawken rifle many moons ago to blacken the brass fixtures on the stock. I figured those deer would see all that bright flashy brass on the stock. Those cartridge cases are really neat looking. Would make a nice way to display some ammo like in a shadow box or whatever. I have a friend making one of them up for a really nice nickled top break handgun. 32 Rimfire. Think I will do that to some ammo to put in the display. Were they done with oxpho blue??

[Adam Helmer]

Rancid,

Great Job! I like your analysis and photos. I gather the darkening of brass with these various products is more, or less, permanent? In the Fall during ML sight-in, I rub the BP residue over the brass on my Hawkens. Before the guns are cleaned, the brass is dark brown.

After deer season, I use Brasso on the Hawken brass because I like a reflection shine on brass.

Adam

[Rancid Crabtree]

Were they done with oxpho blue??

Yes they were.