fellas...remember...common sense is not so common any longer...

we are trained to be victims, we are taught to "call the police", "tell an adult", "tell a teacher"...how can we possibly expect the decision to engage to come from good judgement, training and the will to survive when most persons are taught to rely on others for protection?

i remember standing in formation on a very hot muggy day in a faraway place when the VC were running amuck and being told "you will NOT fire unless you are fired on!"...at least two of the men in that formation were dead soon thereafter...

washington is the problem NOT the soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen...

RULES OF ENGAGEMENT: do what you must! do what it takes!

Agree DON! Shoot first ask/answer questions later.;)