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skeeter@ccia.com 12-20-2005 04:22 AM

Exactly the whole point papi.....from the start...these should not hold water in court....but here in Pittsburgh area of Pa for example, and not talking about Texas, the locals don't like certain jobs we hold such as truck driving. We are not all law breaking scruffy citizens that run arund breaking the laws and look for trouble...and these are true examples that you can see if your eyes are open the other side of the story plain as day..is no hidden well I can tell it my way but the truth of the matter is another..skyline...They even state when pulling you over for a false reason they don't want trucks in 'their' town. They told a driver who by the way was at court the same day as I for his turn in the jar (15 of the 17 there then were drivers 2 others were women and they walked) he was gulty and he had to pay an overweight fine of now get this $10,000....reduced from $12,000 to give him a break when he delivered milk to a school that was on a dead end street...one way in and one way out but the street had a 5 ton weight limit. No bridges etc to worry about. Was just the rule of the town and the ..ha...officer won. The driver lost his job too because he refused to deliver to that school ever again. I am sure there are other sides to most stories skyline, but not in these ones...plain and simple, I do not trust the courts to get me out of anything..be it wrong or trumped up charges..let alone something as important as pulling a CC...and there is a law here in pa for following you 3/10 of a mile to pace you.....Killbuck twp has a rep x all the states as the most tickes issued...anywhere....all they want is the $$$$$ ..and these judges are going along with them. I just don't trust the courts and against all my beliefs from now on if ever again will bend the rules my way. Others are free to roam as they please....Hey, I just seen santa....following a coal truck..coal is the #1 asked for gift....need for heating the home now..:D

papi 12-20-2005 05:15 AM

guilty
 
carry a small micro recorder in your pocket.you can take that into court. the law reads that as long as one of the people being recorded know that they are being recorded,it is legal.it is illegal if a third party tapes others and they do not know it.

skeeter@ccia.com 12-20-2005 07:57 AM

Now a recorder is a good idea..but I retired from too many years of putting up with those kind of things...enjoying life now except when I recall all the aggravations of past days. Thats why my friends wont even mention my dispatcher to me..They end up with an ear beating..lol...Found peace of mind.
Lots of hunting and fishing going on now..ice is on the lakes.7* outside now ...if ya look in the make it yourself forum, can see my ice poles I use...already have more made because I end up giving them away..lol...blackpowder season is just around the corner and I get to take a young cousin out for his first deer. His dad passed right before he was old enough to get out...he will get to use the rifle he won at a wild game dinner I took him to..is excited about it. Shoots it well. Do you get to ice fish there in texas? Lots of tracking to get done here now too...need to find where the deer are hanging out after this past rifle season. The ones still in the woods that is. Seems they all found the no hunting signs and peoples yards..like the 10pt that has been hanging around my sisters yard since the season started.
Time to run now..have to make more of the item I make that replaces the sling on a crossbow...Those slings get in the way and most around here remove it. This works great...is in demand around here as a crossbow sling replacement. Merry Christmas again...Happy New Year.

papi 12-20-2005 11:41 AM

ice fishing
 
we seldom get snow or cold enough for ice.i am 56 and can only remember it cold enough to freeze lakes.it was a very thin sheet of ice and only lasted a few days. weather here is strange,it can be 85 one day and 35 the second day.police work is a strange one. you can be the biggest hit while working. when you leave they never talk to you again.i like it this way.
our deer season ends on jan 1.my freezer is full so i stopped when i got one deer. a buddy in michigan also sent me a deer.my freezer is really packed.i now just wait for wild hog hunting.there is no season and can be hunted year around with no limits.
i used to take kids hunting but they never wanted to go back.they had rather play video games and be with their buddies.i would pick a kid from a neighborhood i worked. most were little gangsters.most now are either dead or in prison.
my main hunting passion is wild hogs.i hunt them with a crossbow.you will not believe how it feels to looke eye to eye with 300-500 pounds with teeth.you will never fall asleep on these hunts.

BrassHog 04-22-2006 12:11 PM

I agree that carrying gives a person confidence that may help win the outcome of the situation but on the same tolken I have seen younger people (21 yr) get 10 foot tall and bulletproof with one which may lead to a very bad outcome. Of the times in which my firearm has helped and even saved my butt over the years (many times unfortunately) I have learned a few things. 1)Caliber means nothing as long as it's descent and with a repectable bullet ..2) confidence and practice with what you carry means alot.. 3) shot placement means everything . Above all BEING AWARE and able to detect a bad situation is the most important self defense while remaining calm in order to think with a clear mind in order to defuse or defend from the situation is paramount. I know that many will disagree with the caliber statement but a miss with a your 44 mag while the baddie pumps you full from a Lorcin 25 is a bad thing lol.

pistolchamp 11-01-2006 07:30 AM

my bad experience
 
After over 39 years in the oilfield as a company man, I have only had one really scary moment. Being left handed I often get out of the truck with my 1911 in my left hand where it stays as I open a gate or whatever. Carrying in the left hand in the dark is almost as good as carrying concealed... nobody thinks to look there.

One very dark night near Randado, Texas on a huge ranch I got out to open one of 17 gates to get to the drilling rig and two "illegals" approached and told me in Spanish to give them my truck. I put the 1911 on his nose and told them to leave... they did... no shots fired.

Mike Moss 08-16-2007 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skeeter@ccia.com
#1. Never draw without intent on pulling the trigger if needed.

#2. Never point a unloaded shotgun or handgun at anyone ever.

#3. Never show any sign you have a hidden gun. Now it isn't hidden and you can be at risk of loosing your concealed to carry permit and now days, is the law on your side?

#4. If you do pull the trigger.....make it a one sided story in the end.

All advice from a relative having been from patroleman to Judge.

All in all ..some very interesting stories...

I don't agree with any of your advice.

1. I will draw a gun if I think that I need to. If I fire it or not depends on what happens next. For instance if showing the gun does not work I may retreat further.

2. I would point an unloaded gun if I thought it would help. This again seems like a judgement call and my judgement has been very good so far.

3. Of course I don't want everyone to see my gun outline but its a way of showing it without showing it. For instance if threatened I might suggest that the perp. back off and leave me alone. If he persists I might say that I have a gun and hold it in my pocket where some of it can be seen. Again your frozen advice does not allow for good judgement.

4. That enough commentary.. I am bored with this.

Valigator 01-11-2008 07:38 AM

Aot of us down here in South Florida, get the feeling a handgun just doesnt have the same impact as it once did. A few of us were sitting around the other night and all carry, anyway it seems everyone and their brother has a handgun, but what seems to get their attention is a shotgun...without going into too much detail, in my case...the glock stopped him, but this idiot came back for more....the shotgun seemed to get his attention and persuaded him to retreat....dont know why but it seems to be the running consensus here...

you guys have some interesting stories, have you read about the woman having taser parties, kinda like tupperware...?

PaulS 01-13-2008 05:50 AM

I thank the Lord I didn't have to pull the trigger. I would have if necessary. I have only drawn my gun twice. Both times against animals. Both times I holstered my gun unfired. I have never had to draw my gun on another person but if I ever do have to I will have to decide whether I pull the trigger or not depending on the circumstances. I am not a cop - they have to be more careful about drawing their guns than John Q. Citizen. I do know that under most situations I will do all I can not to shoot. If I have to shoot it will be a one sided story when it is all over.
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MacD37 09-29-2008 10:58 AM

Man thread from 2004! Does anyone post on this web-site?

In case anyone happens to be looking for a new post here, I'll have a go.

There are many instances where the mere existance of a firearm is all that is needed to cease hostilities. On many occasions the fact that I was armed, and let the perps know it, avoided a potentual serious conflict.

I'm 72 yrs old, and have lived, and worked in some very rough towns, or sections of towns, along the border between Mexico, and the USA. In almost all those cities there are street gangs, that care nothing for the sanctity of human life, and the only thing they understand is a willingness to give tit, for tat.

On many occasions I've had to show my willingness to combat agression with a firearm. Not always a handgun. Sometimes in the city, and a couple times on the open highways between towns in the southwest, where there are sometimes 100 miles between policemen, and you are on your own there!

Agression, met with the posibility of a poor outcome for the agressor, will usually defuse the sittuation, but not always, so you must be willing to follow through, once the play is made!

The best outcome is when the perp's intentions are aborted without haveing to shoot anyone! As president TR said a long time ago "one must walk softly, and carry a big stick" IOW, don't go looking for a fight, but don't back up a damn step to stay out of a fight if it is brought to you, and the big stick is in case the fight becomes inevitable!:mad:

Aim to maim 09-29-2008 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MacD37
....I'm 72 yrs old, and have lived, and worked in some very rough towns, or sections of towns, along the border between Mexico, and the USA. In almost all those cities there are street gangs, that care nothing for the sanctity of human life, and the only thing they understand is a willingness to give tit, for tat.....
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Good points, even if it is an old thread. Ever spend any time in Eagle Pass, Texas?

Valigator 09-29-2008 05:25 PM

This might be an older thread but I am coming to believe that in the upcoming future, more and more of us are going to be put in situations to protect us or ours. I really fear women will be very vulnerable targets especially for the pathetic gang bangers I have here.

One of the students at my dojo is a female weighs all of a hundred pounds and is only taking classes in "Kai" not to sure about the spelling or pronunciation ..its pretty much a sequence of movements, more like a dance. My Sensei tried to persuade her to learn about basic weapons and self defense. Her response, "I dont allow violence in my world" ..I got a kick out of that one..she's a little whacked anyway...I feel like sneaking up behind her in the parking lot and yelling"boo"...


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