My only point is to "not get discouraged" and "don't give up".

Changing ones lifestyle is a huge obstacle and rare are the ones who can do it.
I was lucky because it was a lifestyle I adopted at a very early age and it has been with me ever since. I was not destined to be "in shape" in fact my families on both sides tended to be very heavy and in poor shape comparatively. I choose to not follow their lead.

I understand the "Catch 22" theory ............I would still contend that the long term gains ....far outweigh the short term pain.

And I appreciate that. Yup wanting to stay seated in that darned lazy-boy chair for that 20 minutes is mighty tempting. Right up until I start thinking about dragging that deer again. . . .

GoodOlBoy

GoodolBoy, This is the third morning for me on DeMadman's diet he posted....its a piece of cake.....and its more than I had been eating on a regular day, I had just been eating the wrong things...now I don't play around with scales or anything...I just go by the way my favorite jeans look (and feel) on me.....Now I figure if I follow this diet three days a week, something has gotta break right? So actually I am gonna take Mon. Tues and Wed and stick to his plan as much as possible..... PS I didnt like the way the grapefruits looked at the market, so I bought a large container of pre-sliced ...makes things much easier....

I have not gotten to start it yet, we went to the store finally yesterday and half the fruit there looked rotted or just plain green. I am still working out, giving the old excercise bike heck, etc. . . . . As soon as I can get the stuff for it I am gonna hit that diet up. I was talking to my granmother and that is the diet they put my granfather on just before his first heart cathertization (sp?)

Anyway am sticking with it and am already feeling better. For me its not just about the jeans, but also about being able to do what I want when I get the chance to do it (IE drag a deer uphill.)

GoodOlBoy

There are "hills" in Texas? :D Seems like anywhere you go around these parts in PA you're always walking uphill.

Good luck to ya. I'm stuck behind a computer all day and sometimes all night too. Luckily I have a pretty active life outside of work so I haven't had the pleasure of trying to shed a few pounds. My wife has been shedding baby fat from our two kids for the past year or more and I can simpathize with her and how hard it is. She's doing great and pretty soon will be skinnier than when we got married! It's nice to see her smile when those old jeans that were thrown in the closet years ago are too big now.

Best of luck....but I'd still like to see what you call a hill.. ha ha. I suppose that could be a realative term too?

they don't have hills in PA or TX.........we got hills in CO. And everyone one of them is 'uphill'.....lol

Ya got mountains in colorado durn ya!

In East Texas we have hills. West Texas aint got so much as an anthill in it (other than the odd plateau) Most of the time here when I am draggin a deer uphill I am draggin him up out of a river bottom.

For the math gurus. Figure the angle.

65 foot drop over 140 feet of ground.
Then 50 feet of floodplain.
Then 18 foot drop over 2 feet. Then yer feet are wet.


Thats where I shot my last deer.

GoodOlBoy

The last elk I shot in CO was on a hill, luckily the packout was all downhill. After the third trip my legs were on FIRE! They were shaking the rest of the day. I couldn't get them to stop, but what an experience! Now there's an exercise program for ya. Pack out an elk on your back...you'll see the fat burn off! haha

That old boy wasn't shot too far from you, just over Loveland pass, in the Western Mountains of Silverthorne, CO. The Eagles Nest.

Ya know Petey for the sake of your moderators health maybe HC should sponser me in that particular excercise program :D

Just a thought

GoodOlBoy

hey GOB, Hope you are doing ok with the battle of the bulge you got going on there. I wish you all the good wishes in the world. I just wanted to throw one more thing out there for you.

My wife has battled with her wieght for many many years and until she recently started doing a combination of sugar busters and Weight Watchers she always lost a little then got discouraged and quit, and then went through the viscous cycle again.

Now I am not pushing either Sugar Busters or WW. But something she did learn in WW this time around is that if you do not eat enough you will actually GAIN weight.

I keep hearing you say that you are not eating enough to keep a bird alive (to paraphrase) and I have actually seen with my own eyes when my wife did that she gained weight.

If you do not give your body the correct amount of nutrition it will think you are starving and store every damn calorie that it possibly can as fat. thus you can be eating VERY LITTLE in caloric intake and still gain weight.

So be careful buddy when you are barely eating a bowl of salad for dinner and half a sammich for lunch, and a granola bar for breakfast you could be working against yourself in a major way (weigh)

The reason I brought up the Weight Watchers thing is that right now WW is using a points system for everything you eat. Based on your hieght and weight and male or female you get a set number of points per day and you are supposed to eat as close to that many points as possible.

My wife as many people would be, was under the impression if you have X amount of points and you don't eat them all that is a good thing. Well she was not eating all her points and she was gaining weight. The nutritionist explained it to her and I have also researched it because she also has a slow metabolism and sure enough if you look into it, if you do not eat ENOUGH your body thinks it is starving and stores everything it can as FAT instead of burning it off like it should and that will screw your metabolism up royally.

Just a few tidbits of info that you may or may not know that I have found out dealing with and trying to help myself and the wife.

So anyway while you are "DIETING" make sure you are also eating enough that your body doesn't work against you.

Good luck

Yup. I have spoken with my doctor about that very theory yesterday on the phone. He has decided that besides lack of excercise (Which I am already trying to take care of) he wants me to try to take in MORE learn meat, and omega fatty acids (Olive Oil, Fish Oil, Flax seed Oil, etc) for a couple of weeks to see what the effect is. He believes it may actually cause me to see a boost in weight loss. We shall see.

BTW I have only dropped about a pound and a half so far, but hey its a start.

GoodOlBoy

GOB,
My cardiologist at the Mayo Clinic said that I need to loose because if I didn't I would be headed toward diabetes. I'm a heart patient. She told me to eat fish at least twice a week, cut down on the carbs (notice I didn't say cut out), eat much more fruit and vegetables, and get no less than 3 hours of cardio-vascular exercise each week. Seems real simple, and I have been doing this since January and have lost about 6 lbs. You need to kinow that when I started I was 5'5" and weighed 165lbs. Small man on a small frame. But 6lbs for me is 3.6% of my original body weight. That would be about 10 lbs for you. Please note that it has been around 5 months for me which is about a pound per month. Like you, the question is , when do I exercise. I started getting up earlier in the morning to take my morning walk, and believe it or not, I have much less energy for the day when I don't get up and walk. I sincerely hope this helps you. As a side note, my mom has bad knees too and her doctor told her to do her walking time in a swimming pool. I realize this is only good advice if you have access to a pool. Best of luck to you!
McPat

Oh you know that mentality of either having biscuits or rice or potatos with every meal....believe it or not when I started DeMadmans diet last week...then the 3 days were over I said ok Val you gonna go back to your routine for the other 4? So the first night off the diet, instead of that "southern mentality" of having a starch at dinner I just substituted another vegetable and I gotta tell ya I didnt miss it...and didnt have that stuffed feeling either.....for ya'll not familiar with southern cookin that is almost unheard of....

I have actually been finding it pretty difficult to eat more of anything. I just don't have that big of an interest in food anyway. Although ever since I have been riding the bike I have had this craving for an ear of roasted sweet corn like you wouldn't believe. . . .

GoodOlBoy

Isn't it strange how the older generations ate stuff that today would be considered a no-no (everything cooked in gobs of lard, etc.) yet most of them weren't heavy. My mom's side is italian. Big ol' fat sausages, mountains of spaghetti and lasagna with meatballs in real gravy the size of your fist were the order of the day. Looking at pictures of my grandparents and great grandparents, there wasn't a heavy one in the bunch.:rolleyes:

GOB, don't worry about finding time to fit an hour long workout into your schedule. Just do 5 minutes of something, anything to start. No matter how beat or tired from work you are, you can manage 5 minutes. That gets you in the habit, that is the most important thing. You can work up from there.