And I would have to agree with ya on that . I shot a deer once with a 45 Roundball. Wasn't a long shot but I felt the same way.. 45 Maxi was probably much better. Ya know to be really honest.. I never got the maxi fever. Never got 'em to shoot all that great. I had a TC Hawken that had a roundball bbl with a 66 twist(IIRC) and it was a couple of inches longer. It shot RB really well. 50 cal and it shot 490 RBs in a thing called a poly patch?? Well... it was green and it held the roundball. It shot a lot better than a patched round ball for some reason. Sure easier to load too. BTW I liked Black rather than Pyrodex too. Never cared much for them pellets either. About the most I ever used was 100 gr of 3Fg..Would recock the hammer some of the time..but it was more accurate than 2Fg. A pain in the A$$ to clean. For some odd reason when the first muzzleloader season came in I really liked bein out there...Cold snow and pretty much alone..but that was the way it was where I hunted anyway. alone.

Yeah been looking at Goex and Swiss prices online today alot, trying to sniff out local spots to buy... Not a lot around but I would imagine I can dig some up somewhere... Hope I can anyway.

GoodOlBoy

I have a Hawken Half-stock 1864 I had made by a fellow that knows muzzleloaders. It is .54 caliber and really shoots well. I have used Goex, Pyrodex and Black Mag-3. Pyrodex is like shooting a flinter; never if it is going to go bang. Goex is dirty. Black Mag-3 is wonderful, but I don't believe it is available since they had the explosion last year. I have a couple others here that I want to try. Fun load is 80 grs of Goex and a patched ball. To clean up is 80 grs of Black Mag-3 and a patched ball. A 430 gr. maxi-ball and 100 grs of Goex is 14 inches low at 100 yards and hell on the shoulder if you aren't careful how you hold it.

Kansas minimum is .39 caliber, .390-.395 roundball...which would be a .40 caliber. My little .40 longrifle with 70 grs. of 3f Goex and a .395 patched roundball kill deer. Not my choice though.