Hi All,

Well now we know that Andy's 10 year old son is not the only one who won't listen:rolleyes:

Model70 is as stubbon/daft/bumb (delete as required);)

:D

For a second I thought you said DUMB. I'm anything but.

Yes already!

6.5x55 it is;)

I must say that I did get a pretty good chuckle out of Model 70's posts alond with the rest of the posts, and I pretty much needed a laugh this morning after finding out that my sister's BMW was stolen last night. I told her not to get that car, but she continued to argue with me that it is the perfect car. LOL

For the last time, I will say that the perfect rifle is in the eyes/hands of the holder using the rifle. I prefer the .300 Win Mag that I own. Others might not like the recoil and I might not like to shoot somebody else's .300 Win Mag. I have a .270 Win in a Remington 700 that I truely do not like. I have modified it in the same manner as the .300 Win Mag, which happens to be a Ruger 77MKII, and I just don't like that gun compared to the .300 Win Mag. I also have a .30-06 Savage Model 110 that my dad bought before I was born and I don't really like shooting that rifle either, but will if I have to. Now, all three of the rifles have killed their fair share of deer, I just prefer the .300 Win Mag.

holy crap 800 yard shots!!!! yall wouldn't impress me with kill shot id figure yah ain't a very good hunter not to be able to close the gap or just plain lazy:D
well i've honestly had a old .270 fail me twice that was enough for me to say it aint for cedar swamp hunting!!!! although it wasn't the bullets fault or mine and not really sure if even my .358 would have connected through the one stupid twig in the way!!! two times...now if i was watching a OPEN FIELD i wouldn't mind having a .270 win thats for sure!!!
800 yards hehe thats freekin wild glad i read this post!!!!good for giggles
OBA

Hi All,

Whoops I mis-typed it.................. yey the last option was supposed to say dumb:rolleyes: I did say delete as required:D

However I have to agree with greg..................on the 6.5x55mm it's an awesome cartridge and one I have used a lot:p

As for distance shooting, hmmm seems I don't get the chance just now, the longest shot I have taken Deer with since last Feburary when I shot a Muntjac Doe at about 130 yards is about 65 yards. The last one a Roe Doe when I first saw her she was all of 15 paces away, me of course was loking the wrong way trying to spot some Fallow about 300 yards away when she came in behind me:rolleyes: I shot he at about 50-65 yards when she trotted up the hedge line and then stopped to look back.

I have a friend who is now obsessed with the idea of shooting a Der at 500 yards, he has done the close up stuff and has built a rifle which is capable of shooting 4 1/2" groups at 600 yards from prone. He shoots a lot of 600 yard High power matches, but yet again this past Whitetail season he got nearly all close up shots:D in fact he sat under a tree from first light watching a Deer crossing and about 11 AM he decided it was time for a coffe break, he suddenly noticed a patch of Brown/White and when he put the binos on it noticed a Doe looking at him bedded down:rolleyes: so he put the coffee on hold and shot he at about 50 yards centre of the neck as she lay in her bed.

Later that week whilst sitting under a tree before first light he had a young Doe feed up to him until it was only 8 feet away, so much for long range shooting:D

Not only that, its the perfect benchrest gun. If it had just a little more poop it'd be the perfence 1000 yd rifle.:rolleyes:

Just had a good day to day. Was doing final sighting getting ready for the Christmas elk hunt.

Was coaching the son on how to shoot the 270. He needs some more shooting time. All groups (3-shot) were well under the inch. Of course my were even smaller.:) Then he put a 0.125" one together. It was great to watch the his stress then relief what that 3rd on went "in there"

Hey, a bind hog stumbles onto an acern once in awhile.

Enjoyed the thread. Give another year os so and it'll be back.

OBA,

I have only had a very long shot (i.e., over 400 yards) presented to me once in the time I have been hunting for deer. That day, I had 8 does pass by me on the run, they stopped at 150 yards to look back at me while I was trying to get a bead on them. I happened to be hunting on the ground that day about 3 years ago. I killed two at 150 yards before they entered the brush. They popped back out somewhere between 200 and 300 yards away and I killed another. After that, they ran through an alfalfa field and stopped a ways away. I had the time to set up the rifle, but didn't have a range finder on me and couldn't tell what the distance was so I didn't take the shot. I seriously doubt I could have closed the distance on those deer with them looking right back at me. If I had it to do over again today, I still doubt I would have taken the 800 yard shot that day even with a range finder unless I had a drop chart on me too and a really steady rest.

Further, the land I hunt around here isn't a vast ranch where you can wait for the right moment to stalk game or use different terrain to stalk them and take different approaches. Yes, I have seen the stalks that are done on these hunting shows and there is no way that I would have the opportunity to do that. The largest farm I hunt is 300 acres, it is on the side of a mountain, and it is rather narrow. By the time I stalked to within your reasonable range, the deer would most likely have moved off the farm or seen me coming down the mountain. I don't have the luxury of waiting the game out and seeing what they will do. I looks at some of these hunting shows in complete disbelief and wonder how these guys would fair hunting on small parcels of property. I am also astounded by the number of big bucks I see on these farms that are just eating right next to one another. I have never seen that during any of my hunting. In fact, I have yet to see two bucks in the same group of deer.

isnt it cool when we can argue about what caliber is best to kill a deer..

im with rocky on this one and consider everthing above 243 to kill deer with plenty authority.

hmmmmmmm but what have i killed deer and elk with. i may have had alot of calibers. have alittle varity now but there is one caliber that has done it all for me its taken 5-7 deer, cant remember for sure how many. ranges have been 20yds to 300 plus. and its also taken one bull elk.

it just so happens that this is a 270win. the rifle hasnt done me wrong. it was my first rifle and by all rights should have been my last, except for i somehow grew this infactuation to give dang near everything on the list a try.

ive had a few 3006's but they have been parted from me for awhile now.

at the present moment my main hunting rigs are my 25.06 the 25.06 is the never get rid of rifle. im kinda scared of recoil so i realy like the 25. its also so dang acurate to exstended ranges that itl be with me forever.

the other rifle thats set up is my winchester featherweight. this is chamberd in 270wsm .277 i wonder why picked the 270wsm over all the new short mag calibers out there.

i also just picked up 300win, ive been wanting one for awhile now and i ran into this rifle. the possiblities for this rifle are endless. the rifles i hunt with tend to get used as varmit rifles alot dureing the off season. this rifle shouldnt be any exsception. if it fairs well on coyotes and rock chucks itl be going deer and elk hunting with me come bigame season. it also may go on a moose hunt later on. but it surely want replace my smaller calibers. and chances are it will be used strickly as my elk rig.

so all in all i kinda like everything out there thats 300win and smaller. 300win is biggest baddest magnum caliber ill ever own.

the 277 calibers will more than likly continue to be the staples of my deer rifle line up.


fabsroman

i couldnt imagine what it would be like to take more than one deer in season. my guess is alot more work in our country. you can dang near take in season what we can in life time. thats cool


Evan

fabsroman
i'll say great shooting!!!
were i hunt im lucky to see one doe in a day (thanks in part to our insurance co's pushing for liberal doe harvests) and i guess some hard winters or wolves!?!?! but there's always that chance to see a bigboy
down in the dark cedar..
OBA

you wanna know what i think.?????????? sure you do.

see all this productive argueing wee have going ????? i realy do think it is productive though it wont get anywhere or lead to anything.



what i think?????

we should have forumn for only this conversation. it would more than likly get alot of attention and cover alot of ground in an imformative way.


call it

06 calibers vs the rest.

the 06 calibers are anything that started life with the 30.06 case. this could be the 3 common 25.06 270, 3006. or they could be wildcats. 338/06 35whelen. 6mm/06 6.5/06.

with a list of 06 calibers like this theres nothing that cant be done. why not have a forumn with only this kind of information.

i know i dont realy see this happening but if you think about the froumn wouldnt be a bad one in any regards.. it would alot times have guys argueing there point for the 06 calibers side and even sometimes some of use would be adviseing agaisnt it to 300win or something of the sort.

the froumn realy couldnt go wrong and would inform people alot more on the calibers than they are.

Evan

Evan,
You forgot probably the best performer of the 06's. The 280. Check it out, very impressive. Its the only one I saw while researching on this thread that approaches the 300 Win.

Im gettin old and tired of that kickin mag, even though its been the ultimate best performer for the last 20 years, more or less, and killed more deer than a freight train can haul, with very few taking more than a step or two. I think a .280 is going to be in my safe very soon. Probably in an Encore but possibly in a Mountain Rifle.

Check for yourself. Pretty awesome.

Andy

Andy

i was saveing the best for last. dont know how i didnt think to think of the 280.

there are 4 common 06 calibers not 3

with my current caliber list i cant realy see a 280 being added any time soon, but that doesnt me i wont run into one i just have to have.


Evan

OBA,

I killed 12 deer total last year and ended up killing 8 deer in a single day. I saw so many deer and passed on quite a few too. The deer population here is quite insane. What is funny is that 10 years ago I would have been lucky to see a deer. Now, I see a deer almost every time I go out hunting for them. I only went deer hunting once this year and saw 4 antlerless deer, 2 of which I killed at over 200 yards.

Next year, I think I am really going to hit the deer hard so that I can actually fill up the freezer and cut down on our grocery bill.

As far as insurance companies are concerned, they are pushing to have all the deer killed in this state and in 2 out of 4 of the regions there is no limit on the number of antlerless deer that can be killed. Quite honestly, they would have to really extend the season in those areas for there to be any significant impact on the deer population.