Billy and Val,

I couldn't agree more with Conn Hallinin. That is my viewpoint on this entire thing. Both sides have done things that are wrong, and I do not blame the Arabs for hating the US. They have grown up hating the US for things that were done before my lifetime.

At the end of all this, what ever happened to Iran's nuclear program. That was all over the news until this Hezzbollah stuff happened. Did we forget about it? Was this action by Hezzbollah done just to make us look the other way at Iran's nuclear program? I hope not, but who knows.

The Iran nuclear development and enrichment program has certainly not gone away...probably was even accelerated over the past month but that doesn't make as good of news as the visuages of bloodied bodies and colorful explosions in Lebanon, does it?

Just as in the past, should (read WHEN) the US and Israel feel that the nuclear threat has reached a point of no return, you will see the Israel airforce (bought and paid for with US tax dollars) take out said reactors.

As we've all recently seen demonstrated, Israel doesn't seem to give a rat's poop about the 'International Community's' opinion of them when they feel compelled to act.

Bombing Iran might be a little more risky than bombing Lebanon.

Time will tell but I personally believe that should diplomatic incentives/embargos fail with slowing Iran's quest for nuclear arms development, we will most certainly see Israel bomb Iran's nuclear development facilities. It's not "If' it's a matter of "When." With Iran and Syria's continued funding of Hezbollah, why...it wouldn't surprise me one iota to see a few other "non-nuclear" type facilities targeted as well. Kinda-sorta like that little thing in Libya some time back. As memory recalls a few "stray" bombs fell in areas that surprised some.

Remember, we have Iran's new radical raghead leader calling for Israel to be 'wiped off the face of the world.'

There's no way Israel or the US will be sitting back and watching Iran's continued uranium enrichment development program unfold without action. Israel, as in the past, will be the vessel utilized in the Middle East to sustain joint US and Israel policy.

iran, north korea, the plo, the hezbollah better be glad i'm not pres/king/ruler/commander in chief ...

i'd have the sky darkened 24 hrs a day dropping 500 pounders, gas air bombs, tactical nukes, napalm or whatever it takes, on them until there was nothing left. no negotiating, only total surrender or total destruction.

israel should have kept going!

:mad:

Rest Easy guys, the EuroEunuchs have arrived
 

The French and the Italians, two of the world's most feared armies are arriving in Lebanon to help the UNIFIL force bring peace to the country.

Note that Kofi says that they will NOT be disarming hezbollah, and that without an OK from the hezbollah controlled Lebanese government, they won't be on the Syrian boarder to stop the resupply of Hezbollah.

What they WILL be doing, is aiming their weapons in the direction of Israel. Remember that according to Kofi and the gang over at the UN, its the Izzy's that are the bad guys here.

I wonder where the USA will stand if Italy and France are fighting Israel? That situation would really have me worried.

WHY

Neither country would do diddly squat. the french already surrendered to the leabonese without firing a shot.

the un has already said they will not disarm hezbollah and the roads are open from syria into lebanon for the resupply to hezbollah and hamas. and the frogs will sit idly by and pick their noses like they usually do.

the middle east can be thankful right now that the old israeli cabinet is not in charge or lebanon would not be fit for a parking lot now. they would have flattened it.

i do tend to sympathize with the lebonese to an extent. but they brought on a lot of their own problems by electing weak politicians and providing a safe harbor for hezbollah. they can be thankful that israels foreign minister zipi livni is in power right at the present and if she doesn't get her s#!t in one sock she isn't going to to be around much longer. she is no golda meir.

and speaking of golda she once told the world, when speaking of the israeli military successes, "we israelis have a secret weapon, we have nowhere else to go and have no alternative".

one other thing about golda, did you know she was educated in the usa and was a school teacher in milwaukee before she moved to israel? she was an immigrant from the ukraine in russia and came to america with her parents.

history 101 for the evening. thank you students for listening.

shalom.

I'm sorry, but I have a long memory and I hold a grudge. Israel can go back to the Stone Age along with the rest of the Terrorists from the Middle Eastern Asia countries, as far as I'm concerned!

If one of my "buddies" started throwing rocks at my son's bike while he was riding down the street, busting-up the bike and putting my son in the hospital, I wouldn't care what that buddy's "reasons" were, I'd better not see that "buddy" ever again.

Then, if that same "buddy" stole items from my home, then claimed it was my fault because I didn't lock-up my house well enough,... Well, you get the picture.

On June 8, 1967, Israel launched multiple attacks on the U.S.S. Liberty while it was in international waters, resulting in the 34 K.I.A.s and 173 W.I.A.s of U.S. Sailors. Richard Helms, Director of the CIA in 1967, stated (paraphrased) that there was no way Israel didn't and couldn't know that it was a U.S. Naval vessel. ( http://www.ussliberty.org/report/report.htm )

In the early 2000s, it came to light that an intelligence cell of the Israel government had been stealing U.S. Government secrets. Their response to the accusation: (again, paraphrased) Well, it's not stealing if the information we took had been mishandled prior to us taking it... ( http://www.amconmag.com/2005_06_20/feature.html )

If a government's military knowly and willingly takes American lives, that government's country should be an enemy until *many* years of butt-kissing and gift-giving have gone by (as Germany and Japan have done). (Strikes one, two, and three...) Then, if that same country steals secrets from the U.S. after amends are made for the previous action, all bets should be off, all alliances should be cut. (The batter just spit on the umpire and is being ejected from the game!)

Okay, sure, 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'. But what happens when the 'enemy of my enemy' acts like an enemy?