Next President and why
 

I am not quite sure yet as to who I would vote for President in the next election. So far I don't like any of the choices on either side. Who do you think would be the best pick and why? I see one getting votes just because he is black...I see one just because they are a woman... who and why?...this might help me with my choice. opinions anyone? Who do you think would stand up to the rest of the world?

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Hey skeeter, not sure I can help you with that decision. I'm not voting for either one... :D

Seriously, maybe Thompson. I haven't heard many conservative ideas so far.

If I vote it will be for Fred Thompson. Even if I have to write him in on the ballet.

My 2 cents.

GoodOlBoy

I ain't sure....I'm thinking of writing in Nulle or Ollie!
Seriously, there is NO ONE running!
Dan
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It's simple.

Vote for the Republican of your choice in the Primary (mine will be for Fred).

Then, in November, vote for whoever or whatever the Republicans nominate. (I'd rather elect a syphillitic baboon than Hillary or Obama.)

More than likely....this be the plan!
Dan

Isn't it kind of sad what the nation has come to. I would be willing to bet that Bill Gates could run for President at this point and win by a landslide. There has got to be a ton of better people than what we have as candidates, but because politics has become such a dirty job, nobody worth anything is willing to get involved with it. I mean, really, it is just so sad when most of the nation cannot get excited about a single candidate, and the candidates have to resort to TV personalities (e.g., Oprah) and their family (e.g., Hilary) to run their campaign. I'm surprised that more of them haven't resorted to it.

I was thinking of writing in None of the Above. I am not excited about any one of them.

Gonna see who the Republican is when all is said and done, then go from there.

I HATE politics!!

Well lets see what we got here.

D's.

Hillary and Osamma, two peas from the same pod. Differences. Ones Black the other White. Ones a male, the other is a female (almost). other than that, same o same o.

John Edwards, tries to sound like an old Southern Democrat. Misses the mark by 25 yards. Nobody else left.

Republicans. McCann. when first elected to the senate a good man. Since then has lost his way in the jungle.

Romney. Poor little rich boy and a bad image.

Guilliani. Vacuums with a great propensity. Might carry the vote in NY, PA and a couple more big eastern States. Then he fizzles.

Fred. Needs to get more active and put more drive in his campaign, but a good man. Just too low key. Which is what we might need at this juncture.

Ron Paul. Ain't got him figured out yet. A constitutionist. Maybe a bit off the deep end.

Huckabee. A true politician, can play dirty, after all he learned from two of the best in the business, Hillary and Bill. Lots of drive and energy. And tough.

If the vote were tomorrow I'd be stuck somewhere between Huckabee and Rockys syph stricken Baboon.

Best wishes, Bill

I have a feeling Huckabee wants to be VP to Clinton. I can see him running for Pres but then sucking up to Clinkton just in case. That leaves him out in my book. Do we need someone that is going to be low key or someone that will say to the world if you bother us in America we will eliminate you from the face of the earth?

That's a bit far-fetched, don't you think, since Huckabee is running for the Republican nomination and Clinton for the Democratic slot? Politics makes for strange bedfellows, but that would be a stretch.:confused: :eek:

True, but neither Huckabee nor McCain are conservatives. Heck, Lieberman was more of a conservative than either of them. All they'd have to do would be change parties, and they'd be right at home.

Thompson is not one of the mouth-frothing, yapping, dogfighting furball of candidates. He's calm, rational, thoughtful, articulate and deeply conservative. Even without that last word, doesn't that sound like EXACTLY the kind of person you want as President?

The next President will nominate at least one new Supreme Court Justice, may have to go to war with Iran, will still be dealing with the war on terror, and certainly will have a war with Congress about the economy. And I haven't even mentioned guns. Let's make sure that person is sensible...and conservative.

What I find so amazin is that most all the candidates are like hippies. They do whatever feels good at the time, not thinkin of what might be goin on next year, it's all love, flowers and crap.....until we get a bomb dropped on our pansy asses.
They wanna represent change today...but what about 3 years from now. This so called "change", who's best interest is it in?
Obama, Hillary and Julianna ( i spelt that correctly in my book) are all pansy ass sissies who couldn't lead the overtakin of a McDonald's with a bunch of fat kids on welfare.
We'll all be a bunch of disarmed sissies beggin Iran and N Korea not to take our minivans if we let those fools in office. Oh wait, maybe Oprah could send em the book of the month as a peace treaty....:rolleyes:
I could go on and on, but I wont...I'll git back on track and say that the southern democrat is no more...just as the president for the average joe and pride in the US is no more. There is no pride.
That bothers me...but anyway...I gotta stop preachin like it's Sunday mornin...
Ole Fred is tops so far...Romney is crap. Seen that in MI. OK Michiganders...what's gonna bring MI back to life?? Well, let's start with the big 3. How ya gonna get em back makin all them cars & trucks?? People gotta buy em.
Unless that fool can stop foreign cars from comin into this country...the big 3 will never return. You can blame the American people for that...and he can promise no such thing to MI's economy. Yet, he won MI based on his promises to fix the economy there.
It just goes to show ya how ignorant he is, and how easy it is to seduce voters these days. No president, jackass or elephant ass will let America rely on America for even half of it's products. Why? Cause on counta they are asses no matter how ya look at it.

Huckleberry (yes, that was on purpose too)...I'm not to sure what to make of him yet...I'm still studyin on him. He leaves a bad taste in my mouth for some reason...and I caint say I know why.
Ole Fred however...he seems to have a calm about him that we need and he seems be the best of the bunch. The fact that the supports the second amendment didnt hurt him none either ;)
And I like his immigration plan...if he actually puts it to use.

Lilred, Rocky and I have all mentioned the about Freds calming attitude and easy going nature. Yes, I do think we need that in the White House, and it would be beneficial at this time.

Maybe Fred is playing it smart at this time and hasn't put all his cards on the table yet, unlike Rockys frothing, yapping, dog fighters.

The only thing the dumpocrts have going for them in my estimation is the same old CLASS WARFARE card. Like there are no rich D's. Ever notice how they try to dress like po' folk? They have about as much class as a 50 cent beer.

Back to normal broadcasting.

Best wishes, Bill

Yes so true A to M. As Frasier would say, people do listen. No excuse for letting the fingers talk before my brain was awake and I spoke of Huck instead of Richardson. OOps...I do think Huckleberry (as our favorite story teller calls him) did well with the tax relief he promised while governor. He at least followed through with his promise to the people unlike our Pa goobernor. Two times elected by I still can't figure out who (gamblers) and we are still waiting for property tax relief. (But we are getting casinos) I guess that would be a plus for Ole Huck. Just about any Republican but McCain is not the man for our President. I don't like his stand on the second for one. Too soft. Juli? Na. As for the dems, it is just a race to be a first. First woman or first black man. That is all. In the later, I think the VP will be an important factor. Richardson is one that has dropped out and is the one I was seeing as wanting to be VP to Clinkton. Maybe since he worked for them he figured he had a chance but is still suckin up to all the Dems..to be VP? Gotta watch who is VP if dems get elected.

guys. guys...i hate to say this and i'm going to choke on it, but i believe h-h-h-hilllary is most likely to be our next CIC simply as a result of the remark she made that "i promise gas prices will go down the day after i become president..."

i watched a financial news segment on tv yesterday and the wall street/financial gurus are finally admitting that the oil prices are driving us into recession/inflation.

it doesn't take a genius to figure out that paying $3.50 for a gallon of gasoline/deisel (actually, deisel is closer to $4.00 a gallon where i live) bites deep into the pockets of ANYONE and everyone who drives for whatever the reason.

the high prices of oil is killing the RV industry, raising food prices thru the ceiling etc and congress and govts are going to do NOTHING to stop it. why? they get more revenue from it, that's why.

if people believe hh-h-h-hillary can get those prices down...they'll vote for her...

Oh it sounds good, and it'll get her some votes all right.

But would someone tell me how the President can legally change an entire PRIVATE industry based on supply and demand in one day?


There are only two ways: She could issue a Presidential Proclamation that reduces or eliminates the Federal Gas Tax (a DEMOCRAT lowering taxes? Yeah, right!)

Or she could nationalize the oil industry - which is socialism, plain and simple. And it wouldn't be the last. Next would be electrical power, medicine, airlines, and more.

Of course, she IS a socialist, so that'd be my prediction. Like the old saw says, be careful what you wish for, you might get it.

Of course, there are two other options for her.

She could release the National Petroleum Reserves, which would in fact lower gas prices...by a few cents and for only a few weeks. But she COULD say she lived up to her promise. Slimeball that she is.

OR, she could do like Slick did with his "cut taxes" promise. Right after the election, she'd say "You know, I tried, and I've never worked harder at anything in my life, but I can't cut gas prices. In fact, we have to raise the gas tax because everybody lied to me about the real situation." Cloned slimeball.

I'm a Fred fan myself. And I seem to hear many people say he's their man, yet he is doing so poorly so far. While I'd like to think he's waiting for the right moment... how much longer can he wait to jump ahead?
I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

wow Rock, I can hear her saying those exact words....Would be kind of like our Pa governor saying he has to increase the gas tax by a few cents a gallon in one breath then in the next breath says he stopped the gas tax increase because he didn't go through with it...how is that for a pat on the back and going nowhere. Increase tax one day then take it back the next and take credit for cutting a tax.... Now all this talk about our leaders dropping the gas prices is this going to be after they let the 40cent highway tax go into effect? I did hear Bush is over talking to the Arabs trying to get them to pump more oil to help with our economy. If they think they have us by any kind of hairs, why would they pump more oil to help America? They say high oil costs is sinking our economy then why would they even talk about raising the fuel tax by 40 cents a gal?

Honestly, I have no idea how any politician can promise lower gas prices. As a nation, we just need to get used to the higher gas prices, and we need to start thinking about alternative fuels. I honestly think twice before I jump in the car and go for a spin. If there isn't a good reason for it, I don't go. I also try to get as many things done in a single trip as I possibly can.

I do believe there will be a record amount of voters at the polls this year...my sister will be votin fer Hillary I think. The traitor!
We usually avoid political converstion...but I thought it was my civic duty to at least ask WHY she would do such a thing :rolleyes:
Needless to say, that was on Christmas day...and I've only talked once to her since lol
:p

She'll git over it, me and her are as different as black and white, you wouldnt believe it. But I was curious as to what she thought Hillary would do for our country. Gas prices was second on her list...:rolleyes:

The reason it sounds like a Clinton, skeeter, is because that's the exact line Bill used about his promised tax cut, his first election. It lasted until about a week after the inauguration.

Folks, it may be hard to believe, but WE are the ones setting gas prices. Not directly, but through the futures traders on Wall Street. Now, I'm an enthusiastic investor - but not in futures.

When futures traders bid that they'll pay $100 a barrel for oil three months from now, that's darn well what they're going to be paying. If the idjits would stop trading in oil futures (or be forced to), this spiral would wind itself down. It isn't OPEC that's setting the price, it's future traders who are setting the offers.

As an alternative, if I were running the thing, I'd tell all those foreign oil producers that from now on, we'll match oil barrel price with wheat bushel price. You wanna eat? Either cough up billions or cut the oil price. Or eat sand.

Good thought...however, arn't we GIVING the wheat? 'Hands across the sea'?
Dan

Probably. That's why I'd make it a swap, even up. Heck, I'd maybe even offer 'em two bushels per barrel. But remind them that when their oil fields go dry, we'll still be growing wheat and corn, so expect to pay for it.

I'll support that!
Dan
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congress needs to get offa their collective arses and open up drilling for our own oil! we have the technology, and the resources, to do it more environmentally soundly than in years past.

we need to stop buying oil from the saudi's and venezuela...we're providing them the income to finance terrorists among other things.



and yes we need to continue the quest for alternative fuel sources...but, do you think a vehicle powered by ethanol/gasahol/LNG/LPG/solar would tow your 25ft trailer/toy-hauler and get more than 3 MPG? not with today's technology.

here in the area where i live, diesel is nearing $4.00 per gallon. it's TRIPLED in cost in the last three years. unleaded regular is near $3.50 per gallon.

our congress does NOT help the AVERAGE american at all. even chuck shummer recoginizes that; he wrote a book about congress being out of touch with reality. ( cannot recall the title at the moment)

hillary will do nothing different...and i sincerely doubt any other newly elected pres will be able to much either; dem or republican.

in the end, it's all about one thing...$$$$$$$$$

Kwik Fill gas is our own oil from our own fields. They stress that fact on tv all the time. Kwik fill gas prices at the pump is the same as any other station. How are you helping by buying from there? Where the problem sits in a lot of the cases is the EPA air quality rules in different areas. They need to make the quality the same then thy wouldn't have to make one formula for Pa, another for Ohio another for Idaho..while they (refinery) are making it for Idaho standards, they are getting behind in the demnad in Pa. Then there is the supply and demand rule...Tax isn't helping at pump (so lets add $.40) and I know Kfill needs to keep up with the rest of the world but what if we now buy only Kfill gas and pass on sunoco or what ever? Now who will follow that plan? Not I said the guy next door. I won't sit in line when this one is open. Hurray for me. I have had small cars and I need my truck now. I hate to pay at the pump but I can't carry my tools in a small car. I think the trade for wheat and oil is a great idea and now we need to pass that rule. How can we get our government back to the people? Elections? We do that now. We need to meet at the courthouse steps with our signs like they did back in the 60's ... at least now the police won't be able to beat us with clubs etc etc.. We need a President that came from our ranks....not born into the ranks like Bush. Someone from the bottom.... Lilred?..you doing anything the next 8 yrs?

Gas etc
 

Kinda been gone for a while. Darn ladders etc.. But it is a little known fact that we buy the majority of our oil..not from the Saudi's or Venezuela...but from the Country of Canada. Yes boys and girls right from the north. Everybody thinks we went to Iraq to steal the oil. Well if that is so...let's invade Canada and steal the oil from there. LOTS closer for certain. It ain't happening y'all. Second is a tossup..between Mexico and Saudi Arabia. This global economy thing really isn't working...especially for the good ol US of A. or the other countries we are allied with. We got the Nafta thing passed with the help of the members of Congress who are supported strongly by our own Unions:rolleyes: :confused: . Now the powers that wanna be want to give our rights away in the name of the UN. What is wrong with the politicians or the wanna be's of this country. We need to take to the streets like Skeeter said just to make ourselves be heard?? The politicians we have bnow know that the American sheeple are just that..lambs to the slaughter..yeah you all in Canada too. Can't even shoot a handgun on your own farm?? C'mon! We all need to wake up and smell the coffee.... before it's too late!

I understand the sentiment, skeeter. But this nation had its experiment with a "common man" President - and Jimmy Carter was the worst one in history, bar none.

He almost single-handedly ruined the economy, gave Iran the boost it needed to become the royal pain in the behind it is today, and darn near kissed (certainly kissed UP to) Araphat, which gave courage to today's terrorists.

No thanks to another down-home loser!

Hey watch it Rocky..I aint no loser...I just have special needs...;)Seriously, I think foreign dependency seems to be the biggest problem we have..now and in the future.

The Constitution was written for a nation bound to noone but itself. Independent and governed by the people.
If the country would stick to the same principles laid out by our foundin fathers, we would be better off.

But then some would argue...how many factories would we have to build to support ourselves? A helluva lot...but it would also take a helluva lot more farms and jobs to support em. Aint that the way we became the superpower that we are to begin with?
Understood, the dynamics are different today..like population..but my God, we aint doin nuthin but funding our or our descendants demise.
Thanks fer the nomination skeeter, but iffin they put my crazy butt in office...there would be hell to pay cause the first thing I'd be changin...the US would start callin more of the shots in our future instead of every other country across the pond. Cause if we caint fend fer ourselves, aint nobody gonna do it fer us that's fer dam sure.
Hell naw, I'd be assasinated fore I even sat in the oval office LOL :D

The sad truth is, if we drilled every bit of oil under our control, we still wouldn't have enough oil to quit importing oil.
I have never figured out why diesel is more expensive than conventional gasoline... diesel takes less refining that standard gasoline- seems to me it should therefore be cheaper.

Lilred, it's obvious that you're no loser - because you're smart enough to NOT run for Prexy!

Jack, Diesel has to compete with heating oil and jet fuel production, all of which are very similar and come off the distillation process at about the same point (if I recall correctly). Gasoline comes off farther down the line, and actually costs more to produce, but has no competing products so it ends up being cheaper by the gallon. Odd, but true.

back to the big question......who should we put in our office for the next president?......can see how someone like Carter can just let people get away with things...and we get tramped on ..then if we have someone that pounds his desk and says it is gong to be this way....I don't think he (hope anyhow) will get many from other countries to listen or maybe they will be afraid of him.....

You should have posted a poll of the available candidates. That might have gotten you a better answer, with an option for None of the Above. Honestly, I am not the list bit moved by any of these candidates.

By the way, I am sort of pissed at GW right now. The Justice Department just entered an amicus brief in the DC gun ban Supreme Court case, and they are taking the position that the case should be sent back to the DC Court of Appeals to review it under a higher level of scrutiny, which would avoid the Supreme Court from ruling on it. In his defense, the brief also does take the position that the 2nd Amendment provides for an individual right.

Dan: I could run I guess under the Bush/Winston ticket.
Give some of these voters or non-voters a 6 pack and a carton and life is good lol
Only one I would not vote for at this time and thats Msssssss Clinton.

I will not vote for Obama. Do not want to vote for Hillary, but may have to. Will not vote for Huckabubble the religious fanatic. McCain, maybe, but he is soft on guns. Thompson? What, who? Actor, not President. Romney and Giuliani, yankee elitists. Regarding the tax issues, and Bill Clinton, we also were able to read GW's daddys lips about new taxes, that really held up:rolleyes: , and in my own state of Va. we had Governor Jim Gilmore a few years ago. He got elected on doing away with the car tax, which he did. However he neglected to figure out how to replace the revenue lost in his nice little tax cut. The result was cuts to the budgets for law enforcement, wildlife programs, education, pretty much everything across the board. Of course he was out of office by then. Everyone likes a tax cut, but it is a simple law of economics that, when you bring in less, there is also less to spend.

You can choose to vote Democrat to "teach the Republicans a lesson" or you can vote for some third-party no-chance loser, or even stay home as a protest. But none of those things will change the fact that SOMEBODY is going to be elected President.

ANY action other than voting Republican is gonna result in President Hillary.

And ANYBODY else is a better choice than Hillary. She is going to ban your guns, she is going to nationalize the health industry (and maybe the oil industry), she is going to double your taxes as well as the welfare programs. In short, she'd create a socialist state, with her as dictator.

None of the Republicans are stellar, I'll admit. The best of the pack is probably Romney now that Thompson is out. Romney at least would be a genius on the economy, as that's his proven strength.

But none of them would be the national horror that Hllary (or Obama) would be.

Vote Republican, whoever that is.

It didn't help much that Reagan/Bush negotiated with Iran and bribed them with weapons to keep the hostages there a year longer than they had to.

I haven't voted since 2000 and will probably never again under the current election process (it just goes to show you that our votes count even less than ever).

But I'm pulling for another 8 years of a Clinton Whitehouse.
We should all ask --- Are we better off now than we were 8 years ago?
With all the homework the dems are doing on Reagon and the fact the repubs are doing the same, I would be shocked if the dem nominee didn't make that quote.

Anyway I think we'll see Clinton with either Edwards/Richardson/Webb --- either one would be a fine choice

As far as the republicans, it's ovbouisly too close to call. I think Romney pulls it out.
While I think it would be another 8 years of big business rule if he wins it all, I'll take my chances on him losing next nov to either dem candidate.
John McCain would be the choice if you bent my arm and forced me to vote repub. He's also the only one that stands a chance in nov.

No doubt, I'd like to see the democrats rule both houses and the presidency and get this country back in the hands of the middle class.
I'll settle on a dem controled house and john mccain if I had to though.