270 too light for mule deer
 

I was reading a gun rag and it said a 270 and 270WSM with a 130 or 140 grain bullet was not a good choice for mule deer past 200 yards. I tend to disagree with this since, they praise 100 grain 25-06 and 257 weatherby as IDEAL. I am heading to New Mexico with a 270 wsm with 130 ballistic tips and 140 accubonds and have the upmost confidence with either load. Am I crazy or are they pushing a different bias?

Just another writer BSing to try and get some interest (positive or negative) in his mindless ramblings. The .270s are probably the best all-around deer cartridges.

You're not crazy, but I wouldn't put any weight on anything that writer pushes from here on out. Just for sheer morbid curiosity, who wrote that?

JMHO
gd

IMO, a 270 is a fine cartridge for mulies. One of the best.

Mike

This is like 50 years ago thousands of Elk were killed with 30-40 Krags and 30-06's. Today most of the writers seem to think that Elk now have armor and you must have a 300 wiz bang big bore Magnum to kill them.

Its just another line of BS. Take you 270 its fine for everything in the lower 48. One heck of a cartiage.

The article was in Rifle Sporting Arms Journal (May 2009). I can shoot 3-4 inch groups at 350 yards with my 270WSM and have the upmost confidince in that rifle. I just read that article last night and I guess it made me queston my choice in rifle selection. I just wanted a second opinion to keep my hopes high.

Backup rifle by the way, will be a 30-06 with 150 gr Ballistic tips. (I guess the gunwriter will think that will be a poor choice also)

Redram,

Go with your .270 and forget the gun rag "gurus."

Adam

Man, there is thousands used every year............I alternate tween my n06 and 270....
just depends which one I grab!!!!
Dan

Redram
 

The 270 is an excellent choice for deer. I use a 270 Weatherby mag and 130 gr ballistic tip handloads. Been using that load for years. Deer bow in its presents:D Anyone that says that a 270 is not a good caliber for deer is just plan "nuts". I load 130 gr ballistic tips over 69 gr of IMR 4831. Over 20 mulies with this 270. It doesn't matter whether its a 270 Wea, 270 Win, or a 270 WSM, deer don't know the difference.
Have a great hunt and let us know how unhappy you were with the 270's performance;)
muledeer

Heck the .270 is not good enough?? yet they recommend the .25-06??

I use a 6mm rem most of the time... pushing 95g Nolser Patitions at around 3000fps... It has taken several deer both whitetails & mule deer... nad these are the big northen canadian deer!

It is a lot easier to get high velocity and instant kills with a typewriter than in reality. IE; writers always tell the unbridled truth.

The .270 is not enuff for Mule Deer
 

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

You got me ROFLMAO. Thats got to be the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.

The .270 is not enuff for Mule Deer. He He He He He Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

Your making my ribs hurt. :D

Bulletpusher

I too thought when I first saw this thread that Jack O'Conner must be turning over in his grave!!! :eek:

In my younger days I'd wanting some of the stuff that writer is smoking. 270 not good for deer. ....LOL

I am a big fan of the 270 i just wih i could hunt with i t a little more.
It just is not the newest flaver.
I wish i was given a new gun and a paid hunting trip so i can go kill 200 point class deer and I could praise the best new caliber.

.270 is obsolete for sure. I'm still shooting my Father's Winchester Model 54 in 270 Win. I have shot whitetails, mulies, antelope, coyotes and a bull elk with this caliber. Obsolete my foot.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that idiot was Lee J. Hoots. I read the article and while I'm not a great big fan of the .270 Win., I have used one enough to know he's full of a lot of smelly brown stuff. Right now I have four rifles in .270. Somehow they just seem to sneak into the gun safe when I'm not looking. I even took one out into the light of day last August and then slew a nice antelope, a part of which will be on my dinner table.
I have no idea what kind of whacky weed he was smoking when he wrote that article, but from now on anything of his I read will be read with a very jaundiced eye. I figure he dosn't know his butt from a hole in the ground and which would be the more useful. But then, there's a few more gun writers I feel that way about.
The one tht gets me the most is when some hack writes about the new 29 Tornado and says it MOA to 800 yards and the rifle is so well built it looks like a very expensive custom. So I run out and buy one and at 100 yards I'm lucky to get a 4" group, no matter what I do or try. I write the gun rag about my problem and get the standard, "Mr. Gunwriter has been shooting for many years and has learned many tricks to get the utmost accuracy from any rifle." Strange seeing that I was at least 20 years older than "Mr. Gunwriter" and was shooting long before he was even a gleam in his daddy's eye. :eek: I didn't get a response on that one.
I've even had the pleasure and sometimes displeasure of meeting some of the writers and in a couple of cases, they were total snobs.:mad: Others were perfect gentlemen. :cool: One, no longer with us as so rude that my wife who as with me at the time actually said a swear word, and she never swears. There are a few of he late greats I would have liked to meet. Never had the chance, more's he pity. There are a few I would like to meet as well that are still among the living. Whether that happens or not? Who knows?:confused:
Paul B.

You mean to tell me that the Gunwriters Lie :eek:

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I would more surprised if you said they spoke the truth. Trouble is that truth does not sell advertising and they could never say this rifle is total garbage as that would mean no more advertising from that client even if it happened to be the truth.

As for the ole .270 Win it does tend to mulitply in the cabinet :rolleyes: as I also have 4 of them. Looks liek the 243 win has the same traits as they seem to b multiplying too :confused:.

I killed a really nice muley on my trip to New Mexico. I want to post a picture of him, but I don't know how. By the way my 270 WSM did the trick.

IMO, the gun rag writers are just like a lot of writers here on the internet! What I mean by that is, they have a habit of repeating things they've heard people say over the years as gospel. Then the young readers of their atricles repeat what the gun rag writer wrote. It is a real circle jerk of missinformation, and much of it has been repeated for so many years that it has become legend.:(

This has always been a bone of contention with writers! I have had them scold me on the different forums for painting them with too wade of brush. They really get going when I prove them to be wrong on a particular subject. :D

I must say here that the 270 Win is a cartridge that I have never liked, but that is a personal thing, and has nothing to do with the viability of the 270 Win as a Muledeer rifle. The only problem I see with it is the guys who shoot it tend to use bullets that are too light, because it gives them more speed. When, in fact, the heaviest quality bullet available should be used for Muledeer.

The 243 win got the same reputation because when it first came out the factory ammo came with a light bullet, and a 100 gr bullet. The light bullet was made for varment use, and the 100 gr bullet was designed for deer. Because the advertized speed of the light bullet was much faster than the heavy, guys tried it on deer, with very poor results. The light bullets tended to blow up on impact, wounding deer to go off and die a lengering death. That wasn't the fault of the cartridge but of the shooter. Still the cartridge got the blame. There has never been a better deer cartridge than a 243 Win with 100 gr tough bullets @ at around 2900/3000 fps. The 270 got the same treatment and still holds that rep in a lot of circles. It is no more true of the 270 Win than it is of the 243 Win. :rolleyes:

My son and I both have 270s ; the standard Winchester and the Weatherbys. The WSM apparently falls in between them. We feel that a .270 is ideal for deer with the 130 gr. bullet. We also have 6.5/06, .264 Mag..280s, 7mm Mags, etc. They are all "adequate", it really depends where you place the bullet.