moral dilema...gun buy back programs
 

O.k., here is the situation: I have a Raven Arms .25 ACP I would like to sell, but nobody is interested in buying it, even at a greatly reduced price. The gun buy back program will give me $50 for the gun. I also have two long guns that don't work (one has a broken part that is too expensive to replace, the other has head space issues that are too costly to fix for the model of the gun). I was asking $100 for both, and was willing to trade them for a credit on a new firearm, but again....nobody is interested. I can get $100 each for a long arm in the gun buy back program.

I don't like what gun buy back programs stand for, but if they are willing to give me what I'm asking for these firearms, and firearms dealers aren't, why shouldn't I sell it to the buy back program, as opposed to letting them collect dust in my safe?

All thoughts and opinions welcome...........

Mio dos centavos is simply I do not support any of this anti buy back stuff!Granted, the guns are not worth this much but the anti propaganda it generates is.
Dan

Sell 'em to the program. Then when someone asks tell 'em why you are selling them. I did that once..back in Baltimore. TV News asked me and I told 'em. They were broken and not worth what the program paid and the program was a ridiculous idea. . I was NOT the only one. Made it on TV too. I happened to know the reporter. She thought it was a stupid program too. You don't save many lives buying broken guns

Mr. 16 gauge,

I agree with skeet; sell the broken ones for $100 each and laugh all the way to the bank. If any guns are functional and "Cold Pieces", they are worth $1,000 each once Obama tightens the screws!

Adam

If they are junk sell them. The more money they waist on junk, which is about all they get the better I like it because it only makes them look stuiped.

I sort of agree with Dan Morris for the reason he stated but, with that being said, I'd probably sell the broken and/or useless ones too. If some idiot is willing to pay me top dollar for junk, that's fine with me.

Ialso agree with the reasons Dan Stated except when you get rid of the junk broken guns you can get enough for a good partial payment on a good one. That is what we did. I sold some junk crap and bought a nice NEW S&W 29. Still have it. They gave me 50 bucks a piece for broken junk(2 old broken hammer shotguns an Arminius 22 some ol broken 25 auto and an old top break 32 revolver that was without a cylinder) and when they asked me in front of the camera what I was gonna do with the money I told 'em...buy a new handgun, of course. I waited till I had the money, though!! 5 of us that worked in the Fire Dept sold 'em junk...and bought new. PO'd the mayor big time cause he was there for a photo op.. and we were in uniform.. In later years they changed it to giving people 50 bucks worth of groceries. . That program REALLY didn't work

It depends
 

I have few old rusty junk guns that will never fire again. If someone offered me $50 or $100 each for them, I would deliver them. Take care...
Joe

I would not because they are "gun grabs". The government is not going to tell how many of the guns were useless junk. They will tell how many "dangerous" guns are now off of the streets. People who dont any better may turn in their good guns because so many other people are and " Well, dont we all want to make this a safer city".

This is my own opinion and I will not condemn anyone who does sell guns this way.

Allen

What happens after they post the results of getting all these guns off the streets and crime does not decrease? Seriously, does gun crime really decrease as a result of these programs?

They can say whatever they want about how many guns were turned in, but until they prove that it reduced gun crime it sounds about as smart as cash for clunkers was in fixing our environmental woes, if there are any environmental woes to begin with. Complete waste of my tax dollars.

It is like I always say, we always think we will take the high road. Kind of easy to think that way, but it is a different story when the situation is real. For instance, we would all like to think we would be the hero and step in front of a bullet fired at a loved one, but until the opportunity to step in front of that bullet provides itself, we really have no idea what we would do.

I want to think that I would refrain from turning in any of my guns for $100, but then I think they are all worth more than $100 since they all work. If I had some piece of junk sitting around, knowing how cheap I am, I might actually think about turning the gun in for the cash. Think of it as welfare for gun owners so we can buy more stuff to feed our gun habit. I would be torn trying to make the decision.

Buybacks
 

Allen what you say has merit upon looking at it ..Until you really look at the whole thing. The "gun grab" is going to go on anyway. Nothing you can do is going to stop those idiots from doing what they think is in everyones best interest. Of course it isn't and never could be. But I know more than one person who took a useless gun in and told them they were going to go buy a good one. That never seems to be reported..mainly cause the goobers that do these programs are the touchie -feeie types anyway..Like the people preaching that we "have" global warming and it is all man's fault. Social engineers. The buy back things will never reduce crime..most are turned in by people without reason..that do not think and could care less..except we who figure we might as well get rid of junk and buy something good. I even considered buying junkers so I could take 'em to gun turn ins. If you participate in a buy back..you haven't created it or even helped it along. ..just taken advantage of an opportunity:p:D

There is another way to look at this: If you take in junk, the grabbers only have X dollars to spend. So your junk will help eat up the money they have to spend and may prevent some old lady from selling her husband's collection of decent guns for scrap when the funds run out.

But as I am against the entire process I can not see myself ever in line to give the AHs one of my guns, regardless, and have never done so when given the oppertunity. I like other gun folks just laugh at the stupidity of the junk buyers.

If you want to do something, send the junkers to Gun Parts and they will send you a check for the parts.
Ed

True, but some of those tax dollars are mine as well, so I suppose I can look at it as I'm just getting some of my money back.;)

Last time I did that, the pittance that they sent me didn't even cover the cost of shipping the parts to them!

Never again.............

My biggest gripe is the NAME - why the "H" do they call it a 'gun BUY BACK' ....? As if they had sold us the guns in the first place. BS. I really do NOT like providing these barstages any publicity - but then, draining THEIR resources by having them buy junk is poetic justice.
Sadly, the rabid antis have figured it out in many places - nowadays locally they just give out coupons to local stores - WalMart and Target mostly. "Sell a gun, get a pair of cheap Chinese sneakers!" :rolleyes:

Another peave is, they don't do legal transfers. If I give them a gun, they'd darned well better sign a Form 4473 so I can prove I no longer have this gun - just in case it gets used for nefarious purposes later - this is especially important for those who live in Socialist cities and have to have nonsense like 'permits' and 'FOID cards'.

Hey Fabs, you should know by now that the government does not have to show results that any program is doing what it said it would.:D


Skeet, I fully understand what you are saying, that is why I stated it was my opinion. I have learned with time that even if it does not agree with my opinion, it does not mean that it is wrong.

I'd sell them the junk. I remember when a local anti gun group in NE send out anti gun flyers. They ask the if you are interested in becoming a member send them a note and they would send out a membership package. A good number of gun owners requested the membership package which were dumped when they arrived. Cleaned out the anti's inventory. They didn't have the bucks to replace it and in short order were out of business. If we help the buy back program along with junk then they will be out of money. I just see it as a chance to unload some unsafe or crappy fireams. Hey its better than dropping them in the ocean.

I have a couple of broken junkers out the house. I mean REAL junk. Stuff that wasn't worth $50 when it was new, and you can't get parts for them. If they had a buy back program in my area I would have already sold them and used the cash to buy a functioning firearm. The one time I saw one of these programs going on I was on a buisness trip and didn't have them on me. A big city was offering $125 a gun no question asked, cash money. If I had had them with me I would have taken the cash, and giggled all the way to a sporting goods store.

I don't condone selling functioning decent quality guns to them, but again as other said I don't condemn folks for it either. What hurts is to see nice rifles, and antique arms sold to them that are going to be destroyed...

GoodOlBoy

A few years back I was watching the news and they were interviewing people comming out from selling guns. Most of them were laughting and telling that what they turned in was junk and that they were going to use the money to but a gun that worked. It was really great because right before these guy they had the idiots on camera telling how many guns they had taken off the streets. I couldn`t stop laughing for a good while after that news cast.