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Andy L 03-15-2005 09:40 AM

Remington 710
 
Anyone own one of these? Whats your thoughts.

Im going to wait for replys before I say anything. I checked one out a guy bought yesterday.....

Andy

hofts 03-15-2005 10:00 AM

710
 
at first i was going to say no way, run as fast as you can. but you know what. i think they worked out a few of the bugs and to my knowledge they absolutely shoot minute of deer. one prob is some people put on really cheap scopes, or they come with one.
i think they are slightly overpriced, even though they are their economy line.

Andy L 03-15-2005 10:51 AM

Im not buying one. Just gave it a good lookin over. Just wanted some opinions to see how mine fell with others.....

Andy

TreeDoc 03-15-2005 11:03 AM

Economy is right! ;)

I don't know if they're "bad" but what a cheezy looking set-up. The only experience that I have had has been second hand. A guy that shot IDPA at my club occassionally used to have one. He made the grave mistake of double charging a handload in 30-'06 and the 710 completely disintegrated in his face. It tore the right side of his face up and over his skull like a big flap and broke his cheek bones, messed up his eye, etc. The reconstructive surgery was pretty amazing but you could tell this guy took a pounding and was lucky to be alive.

According to him, the 710 is not built to the same safety limits as a standard 700. He mentioned something that a 700 should handle about 120,000 c.u.p before spontaneously discombobulating. During discovery research for his case the 710 apparently discombobulated at around 110,000. He's not making a 60 Minutes case out this I guess, I have heard no more of what Remington did.

:confused:

Is this bad? I'm not sure, just don't make a mistake when handloading! :eek:

For the money, I'd rather buy a used 700 or Model 70 and get something that's at least more pleasant to look at! ;)

Dutchboy 03-15-2005 11:14 AM

For the money, I agree, there are better firearms. New or used savages (the 270's run about $200 locally), or even a used one from the majors.

Heck, they all shoot minute of deer. The 710 I worked was just simply unpleasant to manipulate. You know the feeling you get when you hold something solid, smooth? The 710 doesn't have it. Sure it will shoot, but you can do better for the money. JMO, Dutch.

Andy L 03-15-2005 09:33 PM

Seems my opinion isnt so far off. I have visions of what TD just described happening.

A guy I know just got one and hauled it out of his truck to show me just proud as punch. Hes a good guy, but not very well versed in guns. My first thought, since it was the first one I had seen, was wow, that looks cheap. But, you hate to put someones pride and joy down to their face, especially since he just got it. Its chambered in 300 Win Mag. Pretty hammerin round, to say the least. Not a popgun for sure.

I got to looking at it and feeling around. First I thought the bolt was plastic. I guess its not, but its not heavyweight. The action didnt feel right on it either. The barrell didnt look right either. My first thought was, I wouldnt load this thing and put it against my cheek and pull that trigger for anything.

I got home and looked it up on Rems website then several other websites while waiting for replys here. I think my first impression may have been right. Plastic trigger assembly. Does that mean the safety is plastic too? Dont know about that, but if there is steel and plastic connected, there has to be a weak link there. Pressed barrell. Everything about it is cheap.

I dont know about this gun. I hope I didnt hurt anyones feelings, but I think Im going to contact this guy before he shoots it and try to get him to trade it in on a Savage or some other less expensive gun that is at least safe. This is scary.

Andy

TreeDoc 03-15-2005 09:37 PM

Ya didn't hurt MY feelings. Nothin' wrong with calling a "Spade" a Spade! ;)

Dutchboy 03-15-2005 09:46 PM

The bolt is light because it locks in the barrel, not the action. Everything else is just holding things together. Not necessarily inherently unsafe (the new BLR's for example, have the same design of the bolt locking in the barrel). However, when things let loose, the bolt isn't held by the action while the barrel splits: it lets go the moment the barrel gives up. Less than ideal if your face happens to be behind it. In the BLR, the rear of the action would catch the bolt (hopefully). FWIW, Dutch.

gd357 03-15-2005 11:42 PM

Andy,

I'm sure not going to run out and buy one.;) I'm not sure magnum chamberings are a good thing either (I was skeptical of the .270 & 30-06 version). Haven't talked with too many people who have bought them, and I think there's a good reason why. Maybe they are a legitimate choice for those who use them once a year, but I can't understand why when there are better choices available in the same price range.

gd357

Brithunter 03-16-2005 03:20 AM

Hi All,

The ad and sales folks know what there doing, there are conning the poor folks who actually buy these, with the Name Remington..................... you know the same firm that used to make quality guns and now puts out this trash.

Yeah I looked at one in a shop, out of pure curiousity, talk about junk:rolleyes:

Slim-Zippy 03-16-2005 09:24 AM

Andy,

I've seen and handled one and I would not like to pull the trigger with a round in the chamber. It does look and feel like junk. Remington gave up all integrity on this product.

hofts 03-16-2005 09:53 AM

cheap rifle
 
i really don't know why they felt the need for a less expensive rifle than the 700 adl. that gun is cheapo enougho. i made a stock out of peanut brittle and it was better than the adl and 710 stock put together..........okay i didn't, but i could have, and it would have been.!!:D :D

i always wonder how many people hold positions that make decisions like these who have never really been involved with rifles, hunting, etc. more than likely it (710) was dreamt up by someone who goes hunting once a year, on a $8000.00 hunt, paid for by dad or remington, who had a really bright idea to try and get people to buy a new gun for the price of a used one.

heres an idea. how do we make the 700 adl better, and keep the price the same. okay, lets make a better stock. done.

teal325 03-16-2005 05:16 PM

Handeled one once ------ action was rough, and I mean rough.

Felt and SOUNDED like it was full of sand. Cheap gun and it seems to me to be the "saturday night special" of the rifle world. That is - cheaply made and made to be thrown away after firing it once.

I wouldn't even buy one as a truck gun - too much quality on the used rack in that price range.

Heck a sharp stick would have better machining and fit and finish.

wrenchman 03-16-2005 08:33 PM

I have a couple rem 700 and the 7400 and like them i like the model 7 to but i would have to say the 710 is the biggest piece of scrap i have ever seen.
you cant even get the dealers in my area to carry them they just wont do it.
The one dealer i know steers them to ether a savage or the hr singel shot .
I like to buy older guns my self i am looking in to a 600 rem right now

Gil Martin 03-18-2005 04:05 PM

It depends
 
Around here very few gun shops even carry a Remington Model 710, but will order one for a customer. One shop did get in three and returned them to the distributor the same day. If someone has to have one, them go for it. My preference would be to buy and excellent used Remington 700, Winchester 70, Ruger 77 or Savage 110. It would cost about the same money as a new 710 and you would get a better gun in the bargain. All the best...
Gil


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