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Gil Martin 04-19-2007 07:17 PM

Japanese Type I rifle
 
Have any of you good folks encountered this rifle?

The Japanese Type I rifles was made in Italy by Carcano in 6.5 Jap caliber. The rifle has a Mauser type magazine and a Mannlicher Carcano action. One undocumented report claims about 50,000 were made before WWII and issued to the Japanese Navy.

I have only seen two of these rifles in my life and bought both of them. The first was a Type I barreled action that I bought for $1 at a rural feed mill that also sold guns. I gave that rifle to a WWII U.S. veteran who landed in Japan at the end of WWII and wanted a souvenir.

The second rifle came from a local gun shop where it was sitting on a used gun rack. I acquired the mint rifle, with bayonet and sling for $85. The shop has just bought it from a widow whose husband brought it home from the South Pacific.

Smith and Smith in "The Book of Rifles" and W.H.B. Smith in "Small Arms of the World" have pictures of this rifle, but little information. Hope this helps. All the best...
Gil

Old Scout 04-20-2007 03:23 PM

I've seen several, did some minor work on one, and one was in an auction lately. As I recall there wasn't much interest in it. I really don't know anything about them, except there was an article some years ago, about Japanese Shoulder arms. I think it was in the Rifleman, maybe back 6-8 years. Seems like it had something to say about the Type I.

Old Scout

Gil Martin 04-20-2007 03:57 PM

Old Scout
 
Thanks for the information. All the best...
Gil

Adam Helmer 04-21-2007 01:20 PM

Gil,

I was THERE at Meiser's Feed Mill in Richfield, PA when you paid ONE Dollar for that Type I barreled action. It was NOT an economic triumph then or now! Whatever.

I have never understood why the Japs bought about 50,000 Carcano rifles chambered for their 6.5mm Jap round. The action was far inferior to their Arisaka actions. Bottom Line: the Type I arms did not win the war for the Japs.

Adam

jplonghunter 04-22-2007 06:28 AM

Gil
Military Rifles of Japan by Fred Honeycutt if you want more info on Type1.
Ray

Gil Martin 04-22-2007 07:11 AM

Welcome to the Forum
 
jplonghunter,
I will look up the material on the Type I rifle. Really appreciate the lead. Hope you visit this site and post often. All the best...
Gil

jplonghunter 04-25-2007 07:29 PM

Gil

It appears you are resident expert on MSA on this site so maybe you can assist. I have just purchased 98 Mauser action,small ring,short,with recess machined down receiver rails both sides and is marked 1942.
Is this a G33-40?

Ray

Gil Martin 04-25-2007 07:47 PM

G33/40 Mauser
 
Ray,
It depends. Can you provide any additional information or pictures? I have a G33/40 that I picked up years ago for $45.00. I will try to assist you. If you do indeed have a G33/40, you are very fortunate. All the best...
Gil

jplonghunter 04-26-2007 08:41 PM

Gil

Don't have hi-tech camera to take digital pictures,however,after closer examination it is not short action(assumed this due to small ring) . It is standard length with dot and the date 1942 stamped on receiver. Thanks for the assist.
Ray

Old Scout 04-27-2007 08:15 PM

Gil
 
I see on the Simpson Ltd site they have a Jap type I listed for $495.00!

Nulle 05-11-2007 05:29 AM

I think this may be the gun I have that was re-done in a 257 Roberts.


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