When I hunted with a bow I tried to keep the range to 35 yds and under. I could keep 5 in 4 inches consistently at that range. Past that got squirelly for some reason. I shot without sights and didn't have a rangefinder(whats that?). But that was fiberglass and aluminum arrow days....Killed a few(30?) and never lost one but all but 2 were under 20 yds. Lucked one on the run(dumb) at about 30-32 yds once and the other was standing in a field at just over 35 yds. I used to mark off yardages and put up a twig in the ground or a marker on a tree so I would know how far they were. Lot of work. Also shot about 100 arrows a day...even at work for 8 months of the year. Another lot of work. That's what archery takes...especially with the recurves. But they are so much more fun to shoot when you can do it well. Compounds just seem too mechanical to me. Might as well use a gun