As I have mentioned before that I am out of the old school when it comes to shock collars. Red has hit the nail on the head when she explained that the dog should perform FOR you not because he HAS to.
Don't get me wrong I have two collars but they are used very little and in training only. When we are in the field the collars are off.
Kind of off the subject but the advise was worth a second shot.
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