MyEspringr: You need to plan these things my friend.

Congrats on the upcoming event. Is it your first?
Lilred: I'm sure quigley didn't mean any harm, that's why I said I didn't mean to sound critical. It's just that I guess my philosophy differs from his. That doesn't mean that he is wrong or that I'm wrong, but if my dog gets snake bit I intend to get him to a vet as quick as possible. I remember when I was a kid, my dad had two German Shepards and they were snake killing machines. Their poor heads were always about the size of basketballs because they were always bit and they lived to be quite old, but did they suffer from that? I'm sure they must have. I'm just not willing to take a chance if I don't have to, that doesn't mean that the Vet won't screw up and kill the dog. I just intend to do what ever I can to lessen the pain. No harm was meant.