[fabsroman]

Agreed, but something tells me that the self defense thing was initially out of the attorney's mouth.

I got to witness an attorney arguing the self defense issue on behalf of his client in Court last week. The guy had punched his wife so hard that her lip was split, bleeding, and the size of a plum. Boy was I happy when the judge found him guilty for using excessive force. I ran into the attorney and his client in the elevator and he acted like the judge was completely out of his mind and asked me if he was wrong for arguing for self defense. I just shrugged my shoulders. Oh yeah, his client was at least 6' tall and well over 200 lbs. and his wife was a little dainty thing. Seeing this crap makes a person sick. I hate criminal law.