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I too tried mechanicals for 2 shots...both shots were broadside and only made a hole in and out the size of the shaft because they never opened. The first deer continued to eat then walked away a few yards and layed down. After looking around for about 5 min. she expired. I wasn't happy at all about this but the second one did the same thing but it just went away without a sign of blood or that she was hit. When they don't open, that leaves no hair or blood. I tossed them that night and went back to the muzzy mini mags. Success has been the order of the day now and I shoot for shoulder and get a pass through because of the tips. This was with a Jennings carbon extreme at 80lb. Now I shoot a Horton hunter xs at 200lb so no worry about shoulders I also own 4 treestands but never shot a deer out of one yet. Eye to eye and level shots. I had to track a doe for a cousin last year hit with a mechanical and it deflected from the front shoulder right down to the hind leg on the same side. I think the action of the blade opening in his case caused it to kick. Maybe an expert would think of that and if this can be possible. Walmart sells something close to the muzzy that is titanium and have the blades hollowed out. I have seen these fly and they are no different than field tips. I don't know the name of them though but you will know them in walmart when see. Nothink but muzzys for me. Happy hunting guys
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