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i still see no reason to get esxscited.
i also wonder how you know when all the fouling is out of the barrel. i can run dry brush the barrel and it looks bore i just cleaned with outers foaming stuff.
i honestly just clean bores with outers every ounce in awhile(not very often) just because i know its not a bad thing to do
on a side note i also see blue come out of the bore. i also get alot of gunk out with the patches. but i could get gunk out all night long if i wanted.
i usualy run about 4 patches or even bore snake and call it good after scrubbing the Outers out with brush
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