[rene65]

Thanks Skeet for the info, I had doubts about that gun .I own a 870 mag and it had to be serviced as soon as i got it, would not work with the 3 1/2, was very hard to cycle and would jam closed or would not close. That is why I have my doubpt on remington.I am also looking at the Browning A gold and the Winchester X2 as other options, both in 3 1/2.The BEnelli and Beretta are out of my budget range for now.I dont really care for the looks of a firearm but it has to be reliable and not break my shoulder every time i use it ( those 3 1/2 shells pack a wallup ). Do these guns seem better than the 11-87 ?