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Old 04-22-2006, 02:31 PM
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Ha Ha Ha,

Oh boy I needed a good laugh

Yep Remington at one time certainly produced fine rifles, like I said at one time now it's cut corners here cut costs there and well someone WILL buy it just because it says Remington on the side Pity but that's the way of things today. No doubt even with the cost and corner cutting some of the production will shoot OK others however will be mediocre to say the least. An American friend of mine brought two new Remingtons back in 2002. Neither shot acceptably and after sending them back and being told that they were within tolerance he finally sold them off informing Remington that they were last rifles of theirs that he would ever buy! One of them a Model 7 the stock on it looked like the sea and surf it was that darned wavey, about 3" groups was the best he could coax out of it. Now his old Ruger 77 in 6.5x55 shoots just over 1" groups at 200 yards with his handloads.

Of course now that Berretta owns Sako and Tikka well it's only a matter of time before their quality slips down the drain too more than likely especially if the accountants are in the driving seat .

Oh and whilst fine figured wood is not required to make a rifle shoot well it does instill a sense of pride or ownership in most people. However there will always be those who abuse any tool saw what was once a fine Mannlicher sporting rifle brought into a gunshop for checking over as it was not longer accurate. Well there were rusting scratches all over the bluing and the wood looked like something had been knawing on it and it was a very finely figured piece of walnut too . Turns out the accuracy problem was from lack of cleaning and the scope and mounts were loose the owner just threw it into the back of his Landrover pickup with no cover, straight onto the ribbed metal bed and that's where it stayed until he needed to shoot a fox or deer

Now I like a nice looking and properly seasoned bit of walnut for a rifle stock however not all rifles come with this sort of wood. Some although properly seasoned is quite plain. Now regardless of the quality of the wood or price of the rifle it goes stalking (hunting) as that is what it was built for In fact I have just re-zeroed a bespoke (custom) made rifle had the scope off to check the mounts tightness, zeroed another a P-H 1200V in 6mm Rem which I got last year but this is the first time I could get it with ammunition onto a range and tested some handloads in a 3rd rifle, another P-H 1200 super in 7.92mm (8x57) which has had the stock bedded with a fore end pressure point.

One of these will be going stalking Roe Buck next month. Hopefully I can make one more trip to the range before I go stalking but range access here is not good the last range trip before this was last October but now I have made contact with a new range and club and hopefully I get to shoot at least once a month now.


Errr,

I think the fishing rod you are talking about is a "Split Cane" rod. Though not cheap they work very well I understand and I do believe my friend the gamekeeper ( who I will be stalking with next month) uses a Hardy one for his fly fishing. Heck he has a whole collection of old cane /bamboo rods at one time that's all they used before fireglass came along Heck I even have my fathers old "Burnt Bamboo" rod around here somewhere, it's what I learned to fish with as a boy ! Some of the rods he (the gamekeeper) has belonged to his father and uncles, others he has acquired through the years. Please bear in mind that Gamekeepers were not paid all that much nor are they still. However it's his life and he is happy doing it

You like Remingtons................. well more power to you I would not give a model 700 house room, heck they don't even feel right to me, now the Winchester Model 70 felt much better when I shot a friends old 30-06 and later another friends Mod 70 Feather weight in .308 Johns VSS Mod 700 is to my mind uncomfortable.
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