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Originally posted by Valigator
I read also in the initial years of looking for a homeland, I think it was on the coast of South Africa was a number one choice...imagine of the aggravation we would have saved....
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val
this fight for a homeland goes back much further than 1947. this has been an on going fight by the jewish people for four thousand years.
do a search for internet history-israel, and be prepared for a few hours of reading what you don't know about. i was only 10 years old when the israeli state was formed. i was a voracious reader at that time, my grandfathers told me to always be a breast of what is happening in political affairs, both nationaly and internationaly. i have aspired to do that. had it not been for my grandfathers keeping an ear close to the ground little billy d. would be a grease spot on an oven floor somewhere in treblinka, buchenwald or aushwitz.
as for the jews resolve about their homeland read about the story of masada when the roman empire declared war on the jews. as for the old saying "we shall never forgive nor forget those who have wronged us" it still holds true today. maybe be a bit childish, but it is better to stand for something than to fall for anything. do i hear a song?
you might ask why the roman empire declared war on the jews. easy to answer 1. they were religious, at this time in history the romans were pagans, 2. sheer numbers. the jews were few in numbers and it was an easy victory. and the commanders got a feather in their caps.
well since the formation of the israeli state the jews are not spread out like they were before ww2. they are not easy to round up out of the ghettos like what happened in germany, poland and russia. for the first time in 4000 years we have a homeland to protect and protect it they will.
the palistinians may have a small gripe in the land deal, but it was jordan that screwed them over not the israelis. but will palistine fight jordan, nooooooo. they are arab brothers. sides that it's easier to make israel look like the red haired stepchild.
i don't understand your stance on how the u.s. will pick up the costs of repatriating lebanon. thats for them and israel to settle their own differences. israel is not harboring terrorists, lebanon is. if you want to harbor terrorists you are a bad guy right along with them. if you are not our friend in the war on terror then you are our foe. simple as that.
you will never see peace in that region for one simple reason, arabs, i should say muslims, can not get along with themselves. look at iraq. three different muslim sects and they all hate each other. and here we are with our a$$ stuck in the middle.
think iraq will end up a democracy? i don't expect to see it in my lifetime. it will end up like pre saddam. one dictator and lots of mass burial sites.
rant mode off. it's pepcid time.
forgot to type in a link.
http://www.fordham.edu/hallsal/ancient/asbook06.html