[GoodOlBoy]

I just got back from a buisness trip so forgive me if this is brief or sounds a bit abrupt. I will post more tomorrow when I am a little more clear headed.

1st Believe it not a 2 hour time from the time of the first shooting to the time of notification is STAGGERINGLY good. Look at the steps involved. Somebody is shot. Police are called. Police arrive. Police for a suspect. Police apprehend and question suspect. Police find that suspect is NOT the shooter. Police notify campus. Think about it. I seriously doubt MOST PDs would have responded that well.

2nd The shooter did not carry the guns in the open waveing them, did not hold a flag saying "hello my name is bob I am a madman going to another building to shoot somebody" while he walked across campus. He hid the gun. He walked. You cannot stop ALL foot traffic an search them with 26k+ students etc. PARTICULARLY when you don't have a good description on the subject. remeber three hours later at the press conference they still were not POSTIVE that he was the shooter in the FIRST incident.

3rd When the police arrived they IMMEDIATELY entered the building. THIS is why the shooter took his own life at this time. The Police where there, and where comming in.

4th Two male students held doors closed on a classroom AFTER he shot people and came back using their feet, and alot of guts. So far I have heard very little about anybody else doing jack, INCLUDING all those student supposedly packin.

5th It is so easy to criticise what the police did wrong and right. It is so easy to talk about magazine capacity, easy of gun access, and mental problems. But in the end THIS PERSON did this. Not his gun.

6th Utah has already passed a bill in the last few years allowing a valid CCW owner to carry on a college campus. How many people would have died if there had been one, two, or any number of CCW carries armed in that building.

It is a different world we live in today than our parents and grandparents days. Today you must defend yourself. Today you must protect yourself. And above all today we all have to watch each others backs. If the liberal media and those like them suceed in their plans then we are all nothing but a bunch of victims waiting for our turn in front of the bullet, the bat, or the knife. And guess what. You STILL can't blame the bullet, the bat, or the knife. The Police are there to enforce the law, to protect the public trust, and to help when and where they can. But being that I work for a University Police Department I wonder how many people out there realize just how few armed police are employeed by Universities.

Another thought before I go. IF the campus HAD been able to automatically lock down the building remotely as I heard one suggestion already today. What would have happened to the REST of the people in that building? You just locked a mass murderer in with them.

By the way the toll. 2 dead in the residence hall. 31 dead in the academic building (including the shooter) 28 wounded, 4 of those in critical condition upon last report. High capacity? In the amount of time it took him to do what he did it could have been done with a standard revolver. He didn't spray the areas. He purposfully and maliciously shot people.

Makes you think doesn't it?

GoodOlBoy - More to come when I am coherent.