[GoodOlBoy]

Jon I don't think getting rid of biofuels is the answer. Instead I think more planting in old fallow fields IS the answer. Here in the US (as I am sure many people know) we have HUGE fields that the goverment STILL pays farmers NOT to plant each year.

I have said for years that we need to change from an industrial society to an agrarian one, and I still believe we do. I also believe it is comming. It is only a matter of time before people realize that renewable fuel, food, and textiles work too well together to keep the synthetic and petroleum markets going forever.

Sometime read the contents of a tub of margarine, then read the contents of a stick of plain old fashioned butter. Since one contains around thirty chemicals produced by DOW and other chemical companies, and the other contains water salt and annote (A flower used to help color the butter yellow) which do you think costs the enviroment, and the economy more to make?

Take a look at your basic cotton T-shirt, then take a look at your rayon/spandex/whatever shirt and think about this again.

Now look at gasoline verses ethanol. Professors can BS us all they want about what ethanol takes to manufature, but when was the last time a giant corn spill killed millions of fish? When was the last time a safflower plant, sunflower field, or canola plant burned to the ground and polluted everything around it and people had to be evacuated? These same people who will tell you that ethanol takes more energy to produce than gas never give you WHAT it takes to produce gas. I have seen the wells going up all around me. I know how many thousands and thousands of gallons of fuel are burned to log out a forest and burn it down so that a new rig can go up and burn fueld and energy for a year or more to drill into the earth. Then how much fueld is used by workers going back and forth? How many creeks, rivers, and lakes are polluted from the spilloff of these operations? How much energy does it take to get that crude oil out of the ground and too the refinery? How much energy does it take to refine it? How much does it take to ship it to storage tanks as gas? How much does it take then to ship it to gas stations?

Myself I don't want my beer prices to go up either, and I want my gas prices to come down. But what I really want is to see thousands of people who WANT to go back to farming to be able to because it has become profitable again. If one farmer stops planting grain for beer to plant grain for fuel, then why can't another farmer who is being paid by the goverment NOT to plant a crop go plant that beer grain and raise it? Because he is being paid not to.

Makes you think a little don't it?

And by the way don't start badmouthin my coors!



GoodOlBoy