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Fabs, we're going to disagree here.
Yes that verdict was complete and utter BS.
Yes i am framilier with the case and the information.
Go back to the court transcripts that were all over the internet immediately afterwards.
She liked McDonalds coffee, why? because it had better flavor and smell, her words not mine.
It had that because of the brewing process, which was 195-205 degrees, and had been for decades.
So now we have lil ole granma, getting coffee in her car at the drivethrough, she pulled off, opened the cup with it sittign in her lap, spilled it and burned herself.
Hello? coffee is hot, if you spill it you'll burn yourself.
Common sense says, you dont open a hot container in your lap.
checkout this chart too.
Table 2. Scald Time (Hot Water)
Temperature Max duration until injury
155F (68.3C) 1 second
145F (62.9C) 3 seconds
135F (57.2C) 10 seconds
130F (54.4C) 30 seconds
125F (51.6C) 2 minutes
120F (48.8C) 5 minutes
People who said it was "too hot" are simply stupid.
reread your own posted article Fabs, look for the spot at the top were it talked about testing other resturants coffee temps.
Now notice it said none came closer than 20 degrees of MickieD's pouring temp of 180 degrees.
Now look at that chart, 180-20=160.....hmmm she still would have been scalded before she could have done anything.
Even if we dropped the temp 50 degrees (at which point most everyone would throw it out for being too cold), she still would have been scalded before she could have removed her clothing.
So, no matter where she went for coffee, if she had done exactly the same thing, she would have been scalded.
"but she had third degree burns" complete and utter BS.
If she had them, she got them from somewhere else.
I have had boiling grease (making frybread) poured into my lap on accident, and i was not burned as badly as she was.
This next may sound callous, but it's true.
The severity of the injury has nothing at all to do with whomever was at fault, only in determineation of damages.
Lack of common sense and simply being stupid are major determining factors in fault though, and were not followed in this case.
The prosecution played the jury like a fiddle, using poor lil ole granny to arouse their sympathy.
and Fabs, you dont drink 180 degree coffee, thats the holding temp. Once it is poured it begins to cool, just like your steak, you dont eat it at it's cooking temp either.
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