[fabsroman]

Rattus,

It seems as though you have started this thread just to argue.

My quote was from your very first post to this thread, which essentially started this thread, and there was no reference to GD357's post or that those words came from GD357.

The entire statement that "A big bullet will short circuit the spinal column with spectacular result on OCCASION" just goes to show that neck shots should not be made. If it only short circuits the spinal column on OCCASION, that just isn't good enough. Maybe, if it was ALMOST ALWAYS short circuited the spinal column, then I think you can make an argument for it.

As far as the accuracy of muzzle loaders compared to center fire rifles, I find that you are comparing apples to oranges with your custom barrel muzzle loaders to off the shelf center fire rifles. How about comparing off the shelf muzzle loaders to off the shelf center fire rifles, or after market muzzle loader barrels to after market rifle barrels. For real consistency, how about comparing after market muzzle loader and after market rifle barrels from the same manufacturer. Somehow, I think the center fire rifles will come out ahead. Sure, you can win your argument if you compare the best shooting muzzle loaders to the crappiest center fire rifles, but that comparison wouldn't hold for the majority of hunters. Maybe it holds true for you in particular because you only have fine shooting muzzle loaders and crappy center fires, but I can assure you that a lot more hunters have better shooting center fires than muzzle loaders.

If you just feel like arguing about something, why not also put a post on here about taking deer with a .22 caliber rifle.

After the .22 caliber rifle thread, start a thread about whether or not 800 yard shots on deer are ethical.

This isn't the first time I have seen this neck shot subject on here, and who knows, maybe you even participated in a thread or two about neck shots already.

Merry Christmas buddy, and keep the argument coming just for the sake of argument. Right before New Years, I think you should post one of the subjects above so that we can all argue about something that has no real answer and is completely subjective from hunter to hunter.

In the end, if neck shots work for you, please continue to use them. However, please respect the rest of us that decide not to use them.