Those points you were making is exactly what I was saying. The government can't even run to the bathroom in a straighteorward manner. I can't see them running anything else. All the flat rate thing and the health care thing sound good in theory. What PBR and others that support these ideas don't see is who will be paying for it. It won't be the rich or the poor..it'll be the guys in the middle just like themselves. Anyone who thinks the rich pay no taxes is foolish. Of course some get away with less some years...and then the next they pay more. The poor pay no taxes and in fact we help the poor along in this country with our taxes paid to the government. Those tax moneys are mismanaged(PBR and Tennessee both alluded to that...and then they want to give the government even more irresponsibly managed money to spend. Sheesh. I can't believe they would be so blind. Personally I would like to make a clean sweep of the whole executive branch or the government and start over with citizen legislators as it was meant to be. The aristocracy we have in place now is unresponsive to the needs of this country...but not to their own "needs". You know...the "need" to be re-elected
And then we have the non-thinking group such as PBR and TEM who want to elect people who will take more from them and give them less than they feel they deserve.
Oh and another little known fact.. In the countries where the govenment cares for you cradle to grave you MUSt be accepted in to most everything you want to do. Wanna go to college and get a degree?? Gotta take tests and beat out a certain amount of people to get a place in one of the universities. All that sounds good to some but again..where does the personal responsibility come into play??