[fabsroman]

You will never be able to have a mother's tubes tied and you will almost never be able to take kids away from a mother/father unless they are really unfit parents. The first is unconstitutional and rather harsh because that mother might eventually get her stuff together and want more kids. The second just doesn't happen very easily.

With that said, I am all for getting rid of Welfare, Section 8 housing, and a bunch of other programs for all those other than the ones that CANNOT work. However, getting rid of those programs will end up hurting the children, but if you get rid of those programs, maybe it will be easier to show that the parents are unfit to raise their children, and the children can be put up for adoption to better adoptive parents that will show the children how to work for a living and save for the things they want.

Welfare and government handouts are a big mess. Kind of like the government bailing out everybody that is going through foreclosure. People need to learn the hard way. 100 years ago, if you had a bunch of kids and didn't take care of them, they died. Plain and simple. People weren't having kids for increased welfare benefits, but truly understood the responsibility of having a child.